Let us discuss Bernie

[Texascap]

Do you really want this guy as President? If you want to get a guy elected, at some point we have to talk about the past. But the problem for the Democrats is he's a full communist.

Keep in mind Bernie is the same now as he was in the 1970s. He's never repudiated any of the information out there. That's not to say information about him hasn't been softened or wiped. He gets softballs served right down the middle when interviewed by our media.

We are supposed to buy his nonsense that he's never been a fan of Cuba, Venezuela or the Soviet Union and only likes Finland, Norway, and Denmark.

He helped found the Liberty Union Party, which has always been an organ for the Marxist Lenin propaganda in Chicago and New Hampshire. He's advocated for the Nationalization of everything. Drug Companies, Utilities, Energy, Banking System and of course Health Care. He wants to tax the top earners at 100%. The Oil Industry? Sound familiar? That worked out incredibly well for Venezuelans. Actually, it bankrupted the oil industry and lead to people eating dogs in the streets.

He also wants to Nationalize the banking system and control lending. He wants to erase entrepreneurship and the free market.

True to form when he was a mayor in Burlington Vt. he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls, raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Small business owners of Burlington handed out fliers claiming he didn’t believe in free enterprise. Do you think? He hasn't changed.

Actually, he doesn't hide the fact State Ownership of the means of production is his goal. You just have to look and listen to his words.

FYI-Don't take my word for it. Look for information about his Goodwill trips. Some of the nefarious characters he's exalted are pretty amazing. I mean slaughterers of men. It's incredible. If you don't know anything about communism at the time he visited these places, you're in for an education.

 

[Expect2Win]

The way he sucks up to Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin makes me scared of the influence of communism.

Oh wait!

 

[Texascap]

The way he sucks up to Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin makes me scared of the influence of communism.

Oh wait!

I guess. Perhaps that explains why DJT was Dem. most of his life. A con man may be true. lol.
Bernie is an Independent. How left wing does one have to be an Indep. in Vermont? Bernie left.
Daniel Ortega is a Bernie Bro. When Bern says working-class he actually means proletariat in the collective sense. When he says a working wage, he means the wages he decides along with where you work, where you live and what you can say. When he says revolution, he may as well explain he is not kidding.

 

[SadButTrue]

BigMoDog are going to beat your post record with Texascap?

 

[MGHS]

If he was elected President with a Leftist House and Senate that would be wonderful....because it would expedite the Natural progression of the Dissolution of the United States. Middle West and South could finally go our own way. Taking most of the Fly over state Military service men with us.

 

[Texascap]

If he was elected President with a Leftist House and Senate that would be wonderful....because it would expedite the Natural progression of the Dissolution of the United States. Middle West and South could finally go our own way. Taking most of the Fly over state Military service men with us.

At the debate, he pointed to a video in which he advocated 30 years ago. There are a bunch of videos. I've made my decision. He's the real deal.

 

[Bendtheknee]

If he was elected President with a Leftist House and Senate that would be wonderful....because it would expedite the Natural progression of the Dissolution of the United States. Middle West and South could finally go our own way. Taking most of the Fly over state Military service men with us.

And how are you going to pay that military? California and New York pay for the one we have now.

 

[Texascap]

And how are you going to pay that military? California and New York pay for the one we have now.

They will remove the Dems for free.

 

[MGHS]

And how are you going to pay that military? California and New York pay for the one we have now.

Midwest and the South have a tons of natural resource and agriculture, plus a crap ton of water.Also Texas,Florida, Virginia, Georgia pump in a lot of taxes as well. Enough to support the military. The 360 Billion from NY/Calif. can be worked around. Once you take away all the assets owned in the Midwest and South from them, and start up competing tech/industry.

One of the Reasons that so much wealth resides in those two states is because of the Tech. industry and the Old school power broker Money in NY, Wall street etc. They control a lot of the Money often without producing much. The Tech. industry can easily be relocated to somewhere else. And really the Control of NY is easily broken once you confiscate their control and assets from the actual producing states..

There are plenty of Natural resources and Agriculture in South/Midwest and plenty of ports and ocean front to build up as well and what is left of the industrial base has moved south as well of late for a decade now 9 southern states have dominated industry more than the old Northern Rust belt and...yes I know a crap ton of AG is in Calif. based on irrigation more than any other state with it's Mediterranean climate.. But once the outside sources of water is redirected then Calif. is in for a massive upheaval.

A split could easily be done and the fly over states would come out ahead and be better off.

 

[Veerman_12]

And how are you going to pay that military? California and New York pay for the one we have now.

We would still have Texas, Florida, Georgia, and all the oil flowing out of Alaska and the Dakotas. You can have the coasts.

 

[millerbleach]

While i'd prefer to keep things intact (restore sanity to the coasts) I find it enlightening that people who live here think it is disposable. I mean, wouldn't you live someplace you thought was important? At least the guys on the football board trashing everything not St Louis live in St Louis.

 

[kaskaskiakid]

Bernie has no chance. He's too for left for moderate Dems, who actually make up the majority of the party.
But one idea he campaigned on in '16 that I haven't heard this time is the "flat tax". In '16, he was proposing a flat tax of 38% on income for everybody and said it would include universal healthcare. That seemed fair to me.
Still, Bernie has no chance. The Dems leadership (and money)

 

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

Bernie has no chance. He's too for left for moderate Dems, who actually make up the majority of the party.
But one idea he campaigned on in '16 that I haven't heard this time is the "flat tax". In '16, he was proposing a flat tax of 38% on income for everybody and said it would include universal healthcare. That seemed fair to me.
Still, Bernie has no chance. The Dems leadership (and money)

A flat tax is fair by and large but extremely wealthy, especially old money don’t have as much “ income” and then the lower portion of earners pay little or no income tax.

Bernie probably can’t win in the current climate. Most people don’t really want to go communist ...I mean “Democratic Socialist”. This isn’t a bread line...it is a Democratic Socialist bread line...He had a better chance 4 years ago when Obama had half the county convinced that all these jobs weren’t coming back.

He is a little crazy but he is honest and that is why he would get smoked in the election but he is a much, much stronger candidate than Warren because at least Bernie has been pretty consistent and isn’t a hypocrite.

 

[Texascap]

A flat tax is fair by and large but extremely wealthy, especially old money don’t have as much “ income” and then the lower portion of earners pay little or no income tax.

Bernie probably can’t win in the current climate. Most people don’t really want to go communist ...I mean “Democratic Socialist”. This isn’t a bread line...it is a Democratic Socialist bread line...He had a better chance 4 years ago when Obama had half the county convinced that all these jobs weren’t coming back.

He is a little crazy but he is honest and that is why he would get smoked in the election but he is a much, much stronger candidate than Warren because at least Bernie has been pretty consistent and isn’t a hypocrite.

Where has Bernie been honest like Liz Warren and admitted how we will pay for his healthcare? As soon as Liz Warren shared this, her campaign tanked.

 

[3Rfan]

A flat tax is fair by and large but extremely wealthy, especially old money don’t have as much “ income” and then the lower portion of earners pay little or no income tax.

Bernie probably can’t win in the current climate. Most people don’t really want to go communist ...I mean “Democratic Socialist”. This isn’t a bread line...it is a Democratic Socialist bread line...He had a better chance 4 years ago when Obama had half the county convinced that all these jobs weren’t coming back.

He is a little crazy but he is honest and that is why he would get smoked in the election but he is a much, much stronger candidate than Warren because at least Bernie has been pretty consistent and isn’t a hypocrite.

Obama had about a million more jobs added in his first term than Trump has at the same time period in his first term. Trump also promised coal miners he would save their jobs and add to it.