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Kickapoo and Glendale invited to COC

I have heard Neosho is very torn on what to do and that now the 4 eastern OC schools may play a role based on if they join the COC or OMC or do something else.
 
I’m asking because I honestly don’t know…

Was it the first three that officially left the Big 8 that started all this, or did they leave because they heard Marshfield and Rogersville were leaving?
 
IF they move, and why wouldnt they, the COC just became even stronger across the board. Will dominate local media coverage no doubt.

You're essentially replacing your two worst schools athletically (CJ and Branson) and replacing them with Kickapoo and Glendale. Also helps travel quite a bit for those schools in the Springfield metro.
 
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Good luck to the Joplin schools winning this league in anything other than football.
 
I have heard Neosho is very torn on what to do and that now the 4 eastern OC schools may play a role based on if they join the COC or OMC or do something else.
Personally I hope they stay. This would be in my opinion unquestionably the premiere league in SWMO. They can play down and may want to, I get it, but they (and especially Willard) should both stay in the COC. Not that they care what I think.
 
This seems like pretty much a guarantee that Parkview and Hillcrest are going to the OMC. What about Central in non football sports?
 
I think a lot of these things have been discussed at times behind the scenes. But then when the first real movement happens it pushes the rest of the movement. People don't want to be left behind and so forth.
 
The first 6 OMC schools started this. Hollister, RS and Catholic leaving the Big 8 could have happened without any other reaction.
 
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My gut tells me the later. Someone in the shadows was creating the OMC first. It was mentioned that someone being Branson.

I have heard from multiple superintendents that Branson started all of this and that everything has happened very suddenly.
 
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Regardless of who started it this time, I think the real motivator over the past several such realignments has been the new district points system in football (and the transition to a 9 game regular season).
 
Regardless of who started it this time, I think the real motivator over the past several such realignments has been the new district points system in football (and the transition to a 9 game regular season).
Yes and a good reason for the OMC to accept class 5 Parkview
 
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Regardless of who started it this time, I think the real motivator over the past several such realignments has been the new district points system in football (and the transition to a 9 game regular season).
yep rewarding teams for playing 'up' against bad teams is ridiculous.

going 9-0 every year against sisters of the blind shows up in the playoffs.
 
yep rewarding teams for playing 'up' against bad teams is ridiculous.

going 9-0 every year against sisters of the blind shows up in the playoffs.
I get the intention, you want to reward teams for playing tougher competition and the resulting thinner margins or even loses. Incorporating some kind of win/loss, strength of schedule formula is way outside the capabilities of MSHSAA so the best they can do is assume that every larger school is automatically better. Which of course everyone knows is not the case.

So the system is flawed and easily gamed. In same cases deliberately, but in others just a product of circumstance. Webb City and Carthage get extra points for beating Ozark even though it was arguably the easiest game of the season. That's not anything they intentionally designed. On the other hand beating C6 Joplin or Nixa should be worth more points. But MSHSAA isn't sophisticated enough to come up with a formula that can identify that.
 
I get the intention, you want to reward teams for playing tougher competition and the resulting thinner margins or even loses. Incorporating some kind of win/loss, strength of schedule formula is way outside the capabilities of MSHSAA so the best they can do is assume that every larger school is automatically better. Which of course everyone knows is not the case.

So the system is flawed and easily gamed. In same cases deliberately, but in others just a product of circumstance. Webb City and Carthage get extra points for beating Ozark even though it was arguably the easiest game of the season. That's not anything they intentionally designed. On the other hand beating C6 Joplin or Nixa should be worth more points. But MSHSAA isn't sophisticated enough to come up with a formula that can identify that.

I could be mistaken but I’m pretty sure the W/L record of the opponent you win or lose to is factored into the district points.
 
I could be mistaken but I’m pretty sure the W/L record of the opponent you win or lose to is factored into the district points.
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I could be mistaken but I’m pretty sure the W/L record of the opponent you win or lose to is factored into the district points.
They could use a Sagarin type system and be a lot more accurate.
As it is now, Adrian should be playing Clinton, KN, KC Northeast, Center, Southeast, Pembroke Hill for a sure 1 seed.

Just silly.
 
Reported by nxt level media , no word from the Neosho admin . I’ve texted friends who are closer to the admin ( ex teachers, coaches ) and no one has heard anything , the majority opinion is they’ll stay
 
I kind of think Neosho and Willard would take a cue from each other.
 
I was just thinking other day that I wonder if the rest of the COC and OC teams merge into one conference.
 
Maybe with all this reshuffling the new and improved COC will rename itself with something that makes more sense. Maybe I am the only person that finds it annoying that the name of the conference and actual geography of the members don't align.

It is basically a conference of the largest and most competitive schools in the SW corner of the state, sure there is a name with more punch to it. It's marginally in the ozarks - which to be fair is a region with a vague boundary. Kind of like the "midwest". I bet we could come up with some pretty corny names.
 
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