KC Suburban Conference Realignment

[Mike*Honcho]

See story here.

Surburban Gold
Blue Springs
Blue Springs South
Lee's Summit North
Lee's Summit West
Park Hill
Raymore-Peculiar

Suburban Red
Lee's Summit
Liberty
Liberty North
Park Hill South
St. Joseph Central
Staley
Truman

Suburban White
Belton
Fort Osage
North Kansas City
Oak Park
Raytown
Ruskin
William Chrisman

Suburban Blue
Grain Valley
Grandview
Kearney
Platte County
Raytown South
Smithville
Winnetonka

 

[Mike*Honcho]

Anyone know why the Suburban Gold was decreased from 7 to 6 teams, which forced Lee's Summit down to the Suburban Red?

The only way this makes sense to me is if Lee's Summit expects to drop to Class 5. Is this the expectation?

 

[Missouri Kid]

Anyone know why the Suburban Gold was decreased from 7 to 6 teams, which forced Lee's Summit down to the Suburban Red?

The only way this makes sense to me is if Lee's Summit expects to drop to Class 5. Is this the expectation?

I have heard (and we all know what that means) that the LSSD has already purchased land for a new high school on the eastern side of the district. Anyone know about that? But even if true it is doubtful a new school would be up and running before next season and then they would have to include the new school in one of the conferences. I guess we need someone on the inside to tell us the whys.

 

[Mike*Honcho]

I have heard (and we all know what that means) that the LSSD has already purchased land for a new high school on the eastern side of the district. Anyone know about that? But even if true it is doubtful a new school would be up and running before next season and then they would have to include the new school in one of the conferences. I guess we need someone on the inside to tell us the whys.

I understand. I heard that Ray-Pec bought land for a new high school in Raymore ... 15 years ago. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[JimTom150]

Lee Summit will be class 5. Enrollment numbers are less than both Liberty and Liberty North. The question is will both LN and Liberty be class 6?

 

[Missouri Kid]

Lee Summit will be class 5. Enrollment numbers are less than both Liberty and Liberty North. The question is will both LN and Liberty be class 6?

Thanks for the insight.

 

[knockemofftheball]

It will shift again, I would expect to see possibly Excelsior and Harrisonville making a move to the Suburban in the next 4 to 6 years.

 

[Mike*Honcho]

I'd love to see the conferences split into North/South and Large/Small, and add SJ Benton, SJ Lafayette, and Savannah. When's that going to happen?

 

[Mike*Honcho]

Thoughts?

Surburban North Large
Park Hill
Liberty
Liberty North
Park Hill South
St. Joseph Central
Staley
North Kansas City
Oak Park

Suburban North Small
Kearney
Platte County
Smithville
Winnetonka
SJ Benton
SJ Lafayette
Excelsior Springs
Savannah

Suburban South Large
Blue Springs
Blue Springs South
Lee's Summit North
Lee's Summit West
Raymore-Peculiar
Lee's Summit
Fort Osage
Belton

Suburban South Small
Raytown
William Chrisman
Truman
Ruskin
Grandview
Raytown South
Grain Valley
Harrisonville

 

[bhunt95]

Thoughts?

Surburban North Large
Park Hill
Liberty
Liberty North
Park Hill South
St. Joseph Central
Staley
North Kansas City
Oak Park

Suburban North Small
Kearney
Platte County
Smithville
Winnetonka
SJ Benton
SJ Lafayette
Excelsior Springs
Savannah

Suburban South Large
Blue Springs
Blue Springs South
Lee's Summit North
Lee's Summit West
Raymore-Peculiar
Lee's Summit
Fort Osage
Belton

Suburban South Small
Raytown
William Chrisman
Truman
Ruskin
Grandview
Raytown South
Grain Valley
Harrisonville

Some unhappy school officials in Maryville and Chillicothe. lol

 

[Mike*Honcho]

Some unhappy school officials in Maryville and Chillicothe. lol

I hear the KCI and GRC are looking for new members ... wait, did I just say that out loud?

 

[Mowestdad]

I am sure the KCI would really want to see those two every year. GRC, that is just funny.

 

[Mike*Honcho]

It would be a package deal with Cameron and SJ LeBlond. GRC makes sense geographically; KCI makes more sense with respect to enrollment. Neither Maryville nor Chillicothe would be a good fit but it might be better than being an independent.

 

[PCole]

I would trade LeBlond for Trenton for the GRC in a heartbeat. Or, bring Hamilton back to the GRC and send Trenton to the KCI. But since I don't have that big a magic wand, it won't happen. But, seriously, I've heard zero rumors about the GRC looking for new members; after all, this new-fangled arraignment is only in its second year.

 

[W.C.stinks]

I have heard (and we all know what that means) that the LSSD has already purchased land for a new high school on the eastern side of the district. Anyone know about that? But even if true it is doubtful a new school would be up and running before next season and then they would have to include the new school in one of the conferences. I guess we need someone on the inside to tell us the whys.

Yes I have also heard there will be a Lees Summit East open for business for the 2019 school year.

 

[BearsCountry]

Some unhappy school officials in Maryville and Chillicothe. lol

Chillicothe can head back to the NCMC, they have an opening.

 

[Missouri Kid]

Yes I have also heard there will be a Lees Summit East open for business for the 2019 school year.

Well, if they are opening Aug. of 19 they better get to breaking dirt.

 

[blue and white pride]

I say get ride of conference's all together and just have 8 team district with 3 at large games to begin the season.

 

[O line wins games]

I have heard (and we all know what that means) that the LSSD has already purchased land for a new high school on the eastern side of the district. Anyone know about that? But even if true it is doubtful a new school would be up and running before next season and then they would have to include the new school in one of the conferences. I guess we need someone on the inside to tell us the whys.

They bought the land several years ago. Have heard it won't be long though.

 

[deacon jones]

I would trade LeBlond for Trenton for the GRC in a heartbeat. Or, bring Hamilton back to the GRC and send Trenton to the KCI. But since I don't have that big a magic wand, it won't happen. But, seriously, I've heard zero rumors about the GRC looking for new members; after all, this new-fangled arraignment is only in its second year.

The GRC has been dying a slow death for years.

 

[deacon jones]

Thoughts?

Surburban North Large
Park Hill
Liberty
Liberty North
Park Hill South
St. Joseph Central
Staley
North Kansas City
Oak Park

Suburban North Small
Kearney
Platte County
Smithville
Winnetonka
SJ Benton
SJ Lafayette
Excelsior Springs
Savannah

Suburban South Large
Blue Springs
Blue Springs South
Lee's Summit North
Lee's Summit West
Raymore-Peculiar
Lee's Summit
Fort Osage
Belton

Suburban South Small
Raytown
William Chrisman
Truman
Ruskin
Grandview
Raytown South
Grain Valley
Harrisonville

Interesting. But why would the Suburban Conference want to add those schools?

 

[Mike*Honcho]

Because SJ Benton, SJ Lafayette, Excelsior Springs, Savannah, and Harrisonville are quality Class 4 programs near KC. All border teams already in the KC Suburban Conferences (Ray-Pec and SJ Central).

 

[JimTom150]

Several of the above listed teams want nothing to do with the suburban conferences. Although it may be beneficial to them as a football school, you have to look at all of their programs male and female. AD's look at how competitive will they be in all athletics. The benefit to one program is not worth the cost to several others.

 

[you_dont_know_me]

The GRC has been dying a slow death for years.

Please explain?

 

[deacon jones]

Several of the above listed teams want nothing to do with the suburban conferences. Although it may be beneficial to them as a football school, you have to look at all of their programs male and female. AD's look at how competitive will they be in all athletics. The benefit to one program is not worth the cost to several others.

Likewise, I can't believe most Suburban Conference AD's and administrators would want to add St. Joe Benton, who has averaged 2-3 wins/season for the past 10 years, in the MEC.

Please explain?

Teams leaving to go 8 man. Others shrinking.

 

[Mike*Honcho]

Benton has certainly been down for a while but Smithville doesn't exactly have a stellar MEC record in football. I remember when Benton was near the top of the MEC.

And as others have said, football is just one sport that needs to be taken into consideration.

 

[Mike*Honcho]

Likewise, I can't believe most Suburban Conference AD's and administrators would want to add St. Joe Benton, who has averaged 2-3 wins/season for the past 10 years, in the MEC.

They took St. Joe Central. When was the last time they were good? I remember a few years in 2003-2004 when they were decent but I can't ever recall them being good, unless you want to go back to the '40s and '50s.

 

[GoTigersCrew]

I thought Grain Valley was going to add a second high school? Wouldn’t that then drop them both back to Class 3s ?

 

[panther72]

I thought Grain Valley was going to add a second high school? Wouldn’t that then drop them both back to Class 3s ?

I doubt that. They are land locked except to the north.

 

[GoTigersCrew]

Thought they had bought Land to the North just for that... GV is really growing

 

[sportsfan2]

I understand. I heard that Ray-Pec bought land for a new high school in Raymore ... 15 years ago. I'll believe it when I see it.

It is true that Ray-Pec had acquired land in Raymore to build both a MS and a 2nd HS in the same location. The plan was for the 2nd MS be built in 2012 or 2013 (which they did) and the 2nd HS to be built around 2014, but the financial funding cuts, if I recall, affected that plan so it got delayed. They did build the 2nd MS. However, the new middle school became the districts only middle school and they used the first middle school as part of the HS (both buildings are on the same campus) because of capacity issues.. They still have the land available to build a 2nd HS, but I don't see that happening in the near future. In fact, they passed a bond issue 2 years ago to expand the current HS and they reverted the old middle school building back into a MS so now they have 2 middle schools and 1 HS (with room to grow).
I'm sure that is all clear as mud now. Haha

As far as Lee's Summits land and whether they will build the 4th HS, I don't know. But LS is growing really fast so I would not be surprised if they would need the 4th HS within the next few years

 

[HoopsTournament]

The GRC has been dying a slow death for years.

Sorry, but that is ridiculous. They just expanded by 6 teams. Teams did not leave the GRC to go 8-man. They are STILL in the GRC. No one left the GRC.

 

[O line wins games]

Sorry, but that is ridiculous. They just expanded by 6 teams. Teams did not leave the GRC to go 8-man. They are STILL in the GRC. No one left the GRC.

Are any towns in the GRC growing?

 

[you_dont_know_me]

Are any towns in the GRC growing?

Sorry, but you lose. The conference is quite strong, now you are moving the goal posts. are any small towns removed from a big city growing?

 

[panther72]

Not sure how the GRC got thrown in this but 11 of the 16 schools had an enrollment increase in the current cycle as compared to the previous cycle. One on those that did lose enrollment, Princeton, only had a decrease of 1. By and large, it looks like these schools are either maintaining or growing.

 

[bhunt95]

Off original topic. But alot of the small towns around Maryville have lost enrollment numbers when Eveready factory shut down. you've seen this by the break up of the PVC and COOP's of a lot of those school football teams.

Never understood how it's economically feasable to have 7 school districts in Nodaway County within 15 minutes of Maryville.

 

[O line wins games]

Sorry, but you lose. The conference is quite strong, now you are moving the goal posts. are any small towns removed from a big city growing?

I'm not winning or losing? I was asking. I thought it seemed like Albany was growing a little bit. I'm not in any of the others enough to know. Just a question. Sorry if it offended you.

 

[you_dont_know_me]

My bad. I assumed you were piggy backing off the last grc hater apologies. That's what assuming does

 

[panther72]

Nodaway Co. Schools: In the last cycle, 3 schools have increased enrollment and 4 have lost. One was a decrease of 1, one was a decrease of 2, one was a decrease of 6 and Maryville had a decrease of 4. Overall there was a slight increase.
Nodaway Co. has a very good tax base because of very good farm land. I would bet, if you look at the financial structure of those six schools outside Maryville you would see 50 to 100% of their budget in balance. Unlike the rich, those farmers pay their fair taxes.

 

[HoopsTournament]

Are any towns in the GRC growing?

While population has declined in the towns, school enrollment has increased overall.

School    2015-16    2017-18    Change
Albany     135      113     -16.3%
Braymer     83      96     15.7%
Gallatin     192      194     1.0%
King City     91      107     17.6%
Maysville     182      174     -4.4%
Milan     196      205     4.6%
North Andrew     116      117     0.9%
Pattonsburg     55      58     5.5%
Polo     127      139     9.4%
Princeton     128      127     -0.8%
Putnam County     218      213     -2.3%
St. Joseph Christian     70      80     14.3%
South Harrison     217      243     12.0%
Stanberry     101      121     19.8%
Trenton     367      354     -3.5%
Worth County     98      113     15.3%
Total     2,376      2,454     3.3%