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Judge says no to fascist, yes to free speech

Toots_mcgee

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Republicans talk a big game about free speech and the First Amendment. But when it comes down to it, they actually believe people should only be “free” to discuss topics they’ve approved.

No elected official better epitomizes this hypocrisy than Florida governor Ron DeSantis who, in the last year alone, has signed a law effectively banning teachers from saying the word “gay” in grades K–3; punished one of the largest employers in the state for having the temerity to criticize the “Don’t Say Gay” law; and signed into law a bill—eye-rollingly named “Stop WOKE Act”—that restricts conversations about race in schools and businesses, in a patently obvious attempt to prevent real discussions about the role white people have played in the long history of systemic racism in America. And on Thursday, a federal judge called him on his bullshit.

In a 138-page order, chief US district judge Mark Walker blocked state officials from enforcing a central piece of the Stop WOKE Act, which he dubbed “positively dystopian” and says violates the First Amendment. Citing George Orwell’s 1984, Walker wrote that DeSantis and company seem to believe that “the State has unfettered authority to muzzle its professors in the name of ‘freedom,’” which is quite obviously not freedom at all. Zeroing in on the fact that the law targets freedom of expression that DeSantis and his fellow Republicans don’t like, Walker wrote: “The law officially bans professors from expressing disfavored viewpoints in university classrooms while permitting unfettered expression of the opposite viewpoints. Defendants argue that, under this Act, professors enjoy ‘academic freedom’ so long as they express only those viewpoints of which the State approves.”

Failed fascist.
 
You do know that no place in the bill does it ban the word gay right... If you are talking about HB1557.

And come on you link a Opinion piece from Vanity Fair!!! I mean a opinion piece from the NYT or WSJ is one thing but Vanity Fair LOL. It was just emotional drivel and fear mongering.

The NBC article had some valid and legit points but Vanity Fair OH MY!!! Karen City on that.

I know that Teachers are not at all qualified at any level to discuss, give a opinion or even engage in discourse about these issues. The damage that Urban/Suburban teachers do as they play junior Dr.Phil therapists is catastrophic and borderline criminal in a lot of cases. Some of them should fear legal action for some of the things they do, say or engage in.

And you do know as this travels higher up the Judicial Chain these lower rulings by radical Judges will more than Likely be overturned as the Law's passes Muster.

So strange that the Bill HB7 that prohibits schools and business from leveling or assigning guilt or blame to students or employee's based simply on their DNA/RACE/SEX is deemed dystopian!! Why would stopping unjustified and unwarranted psychological distress be deemed a horrible thing? If rogue and radical educators are bilging out this type of propaganda they should be stopped. To label and Degrade people based on Race is mindboggling in this era. But clearly some Academics higher up clearly are up in arms about having the right of bludgeoning certain races is being throttled.


I get the jist is that they are a state colleges and they feel they should be able to spew what ever vile they want in the name of education. But would that fly if the State Law Enforcement started stating that Citizens should beware Hispanics and Blacks because they commit and are arrested for most Crimes in the state of Florida! And that those Races are inherently more Violent and predisposed to commit crimes based on those data facts? As opposed to the underlying Truth that they just happen to be more economically Depressed a demographic and across History those factors lead to more crimes!



I think Adam Steinbaugh statement is a huge issue... stating Faculty members are hired for their Opinions and to offer them should be the status quo. NO really they are hired to Teach Facts and Data and let Students form their Own Opinions based on those Facts and Data that are presented. But I guess in his world Teachers/Prof. etc. are there to Shape, Groom, and Sway the students opinions. And you call the Bill Fascist...LOL

Clearly under the law a Prof. could teach historical facts that in the Past Oppression and Status was race based....that would be legal. But to then turn and look at a certain race today sitting in a classroom and continue to blame them for past ill's they had nothing to do with is out of bounds.
 
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