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I'll bet the Royals

3Rfan

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don't think a strikeout is just like any other out. Just look what can happen if you put the ball in play. Last night it was a routine grounder to 2nd that was botched and started the big rally. That said the announcers are praising Hosmer for his 'great base running' when all the 1st baseman had to do was make a good throw and the game was over. I'll bet they would have been talking about what a bone head base running mistake it was if he had been thrown out to end it.
 
Do you realize for every one of these scenarios you come up with, you could also cite a double play as evidence to the contrary?
 
There's a big thread in the politics forum right now that discusses why anecdotal evidence is an extremely poor justification for a belief.

You know what would have been better than a groundball that is an out 99% of the time? An actual hit!

The Royals were a bit fortunate that Lucas Duda is an awful defender. Credit where credit is due, though - they went out there and made the plays to win.
 
There's a big thread in the politics forum right now that discusses why anecdotal evidence is an extremely poor justification for a belief.

You know what would have been better than a groundball that is an out 99% of the time? An actual hit!

The Royals were a bit fortunate that Lucas Duda is an awful defender. Credit where credit is due, though - they went out there and made the plays to win.
There you go using that anecdotal word again. Just trying to keep me confused!!!
 
Generally hitting the ball increases your chance of getting a hit, wouldn't you say?

The Royals put the bat on the ball more than STL. Stop acting like striking out is some wonderful thing. Yes, making a pitcher work has an effect. Striking out still sucks.
 
Generally hitting the ball increases your chance of getting a hit, wouldn't you say?

The Royals put the bat on the ball more than STL. Stop acting like striking out is some wonderful thing. Yes, making a pitcher work has an effect. Striking out still sucks.
I'd rather a player strike out 15% of time and hit line drives 20% of the time than strike out 9% and hit 10% line drives.

No one is saying Ks are awesome on their own but they are just a piece of the puzzle. KC was second to last in HR in the AL partly because they were a hit to contact team. That's why they were close to average overall runs scored for the AL and right about average on basically all of the advanced stats metrics as a team

The Royals were awesome in two areas: they had the best defense in the AL, and the back of their bullpen was lights out.
 
I'd rather a player strike out 15% of time and hit line drives 20% of the time than strike out 9% and hit 10% line drives.

No one is saying Ks are awesome on their own but they are just a piece of the puzzle. KC was second to last in HR in the AL partly because they were a hit to contact team. That's why they were close to average overall runs scored for the AL and right about average on basically all of the advanced stats metrics as a team

The Royals were awesome in two areas: they had the best defense in the AL, and the back of their bullpen was lights out.
And they had Runny as a fan
 
I'd rather a player strike out 15% of time and hit line drives 20% of the time than strike out 9% and hit 10% line drives.

No one is saying Ks are awesome on their own but they are just a piece of the puzzle. KC was second to last in HR in the AL partly because they were a hit to contact team. That's why they were close to average overall runs scored for the AL and right about average on basically all of the advanced stats metrics as a team

The Royals were awesome in two areas: they had the best defense in the AL, and the back of their bullpen was lights out.
They're closer blew up in the WS, He was NOT very good. They put the ball in play and made the defense make plays and it paid off. I know strikeouts a part of the game and everybody does it, but they are NOT just another out because they give you nearly zero chance of something good happening. Congrats to the Royals. Now it's basketball season.
 
judging the Royals closer by a 5 game series is a profoundly bad way to evaluate his talent and strengths.
 
judging the Royals closer by a 5 game series is a profoundly bad way to evaluate his talent and strengths.
Not judging his whole career, or even his season, just his performance in the WS. I didn't know we shouldn't talk about a guy that doesn't perform well in the WS. Seems like I've heard that kind of stuff many times on here about a guy named Wainwright. We all know about his regular season pitching and as a closer in the WS, but most of his post season stuff has not been so great. Seems like there's a guy on the west coast in that boat too.
 
My knees can attest to that! Somehow had forgotten what standing on hardwood for a few hours straight does to my back and knees. But glad it's here!
Imagine what sitting on bleachers a couple hundred games a year does to mine. :( That doesn't even count the time spent in a car getting to many of the games. But like you I'm glad it's here.
 
Do you realize for every one of these scenarios you come up with, you could also cite a double play as evidence to the contrary?
Even DP's drive in runs sometimes, strikeouts not so much. I just read that Hosmer was the only Royals player to strikeout over 100 times this season and he was at 108. Our leadoff guy that used to be considered one of of the toughest outs in the game and the best 2 strike hitter struck out 151 times. It's all good though because he hit more HR's this year. :cool:
 
DPs generally lower expected runs more than Ks. Not making an out is the most important skill of a hitter, by far. Making two of them is worse than making one of them.
 
DPs generally lower expected runs more than Ks. Not making an out is the most important skill of a hitter, by far. Making two of them is worse than making one of them.
I can't even tell you how many times I've seen a defense take the DP and allow a run to score. Many more way to score from 3rd than from 2nd, that's why you want to out the ball in play with a runner on 2nd but I'll guarantee you a DP that scores a run happens WAAAY more than a strikeout with a wild pitch or past ball that scores a run.
 
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