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1000 1500 so on Who makes their team better. I have watched scorers hurt their team
I was able to see the Clevenger girl from Clever a few times. She makes that team better and the other girls seem to feed off her. Worth watching play.
 
There ARE scorers that hurt their teams. What I have found is that the ones who score the most points per field goal attempts are the best and most efficient scorers and that translates into greatly helping their team and generally equates to wins.

For example, this season Clevenger is scoring 1.6 points per field goal attempt which is outstanding at the high school level. She takes around 15 field goal attempts to score her 25-26 per game. Gets to the line around 7 times per and hits the 3 ball at a 35-40% clip and according to Max Preps she's 65% on 2 point shots. That's the epitome of an efficient scorer.

But there are plenty of 1000-1500 point scorers who don't come close to those ratios. A kid who averages 17 ppg but shoots 18 field goal attempts per game really isn't helping their team win, especially if they are also turnover prone, but it'll give them a shot at the 1000, even 1500 point milestone.

And unfortunately, to the OP's point, scoring average and point milestones aren't everything and rings hollow when a player's team isn't very successful.
 
There ARE scorers that hurt their teams. What I have found is that the ones who score the most points per field goal attempts are the best and most efficient scorers and that translates into greatly helping their team and generally equates to wins

For example, this season Clevenger is scoring 1.6 points per field goal attempt which is outstanding at the high school level. She takes around 15 field goal attempts to score her 25-26 per game. Gets to the line around 7 times per and hits the 3 ball at a 35-40% clip and according to Max Preps she's 65% on 2 point shots. That's the epitome of an efficient scorer.

But there are plenty of 1000-1500 point scorers who don't come close to those ratios. A kid who averages 17 ppg but shoots 18 field goal attempts per game really isn't helping their team win, especially if they are also turnover prone, but it'll give them a shot at the 1000, even 1500 point milestone.

And unfortunately, to the OP's point, scoring average and point milestones aren't everything and rings hollow when a player's team isn't very successful.
I wouldn’t go that far. Stats can be very deceiving. Their are kids out there who can be very successful and score a lot of points but their team around them is not very good. That doesn’t mean they are hurting their team. Stats are just a snapshot of the game. Some kids might just face better defensive teams day in and day out that lower their percentages. I wouldn’t take anything away from any of those kids.
 
I wouldn’t go that far. Stats can be very deceiving. Their are kids out there who can be very successful and score a lot of points but their team around them is not very good. That doesn’t mean they are hurting their team. Stats are just a snapshot of the game. Some kids might just face better defensive teams day in and day out that lower their percentages. I wouldn’t take anything away from any of those kids.

I can’t really disagree with that. Having good teammates who can pass the ball well and can score when left open so teams can’t double team the best scorer does make a difference. It’s a case by case basis.
 
There ARE scorers that hurt their teams. What I have found is that the ones who score the most points per field goal attempts are the best and most efficient scorers and that translates into greatly helping their team and generally equates to wins.

For example, this season Clevenger is scoring 1.6 points per field goal attempt which is outstanding at the high school level. She takes around 15 field goal attempts to score her 25-26 per game. Gets to the line around 7 times per and hits the 3 ball at a 35-40% clip and according to Max Preps she's 65% on 2 point shots. That's the epitome of an efficient scorer.

But there are plenty of 1000-1500 point scorers who don't come close to those ratios. A kid who averages 17 ppg but shoots 18 field goal attempts per game really isn't helping their team win, especially if they are also turnover prone, but it'll give them a shot at the 1000, even 1500 point milestone.

And unfortunately, to the OP's point, scoring average and point milestones aren't everything and rings hollow when a player's team isn't very successful.

There are also some players that take a lot of shots to score their points and are not very efficient, but they are such a better option to shoot than the other players on their team that while they may be inefficient they would be hurting their team more to not keep trying to score.

Like we've all said, every situation is different. There are some big scorers that hurt their teams, but I'd say the vast majority of 1000, 1500, 2000 point scorers help more than hurt.
 
Yep, good basketball chemistry is a challenge that every coach tries to achieve. Understanding it is the easy part, getting players to buy in can be the hardest part.
 
It seems a good majority of the kids both girls and boys who score a lot points come from smaller schools. Not to take away their accomplishments, but they don’t see the defense bigger schools see night in and night out.
 
That, and the smaller schools don't have the quality and quantity of depth that the bigger schools have, so it's easier for a good scorer to stand out. They get more shots and more minutes.

Clevenger for example scored 25, 25 and 24 respectively against Class 5 schools Lebanon, Nixa, and Kickapoo
 
It seems a good majority of the kids both girls and boys who score a lot points come from smaller schools. Not to take away their accomplishments, but they don’t see the defense bigger schools see night in and night out.

Kids at small schools are also much more likely to play 3 or 4 years.
 
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