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I hate her so bad.

Duck_walk

Duck_walk

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Bernie tweeted almost this exact info last week.

Now suddenly, Hillary tweets it.

She freakin accepts millions from these people. I hate her worse every day. She could not care less about ordinary Americans. If you plan to vote for her I hope your car breaks down, you start getting canker sores, and every time you are making love to your wife you visualize Hillary in a pants suit and can't perform.

"The top 25 hedge fund managers make more than all of the kindergarten teachers in America combined. That’s not acceptable.".
 
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I'm sure there are enough people that will support her no mater what she is guilty of.
 
WCS Coach said:
Long way till November.
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absolutely but only one party is interested in picking a candidate that can win the election.

Hillary isn't even that strong, either, but it doesn't matter when the other party is picking between Trump and Cruz.
 
wcowherd said:
She's definitely going to win the Dem nomination.
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It was interesting reading the NYT and fivethirtyeight on this today. Sanders projected delegates are actually down after the last few rounds of results. I would not have guessed that.
 
WCS Coach said:
I'm sure there are enough people that will support her no mater what she is guilty of.
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By the responses, they all know she is guilty WCS,

They are just gloating that she hasn't been charged yet,

I have never been so proud of my country.....
 
The Rumor said:
It was interesting reading the NYT and fivethirtyeight on this today. Sanders projected delegates are actually down after the last few rounds of results. I would not have guessed that.
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Sanders wins 6 of the last 7 states and his total goes down. Gotta love that Dem math.
 
wcowherd said:
That's not what he said.
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What he said was "code" for ...

This voting thing is nice and yes the "people" love Bernie but Hillary is "our" gal and the "Super Delegates" along with "Sharing a % of each States" delegates will guarantee that the "Democrat Establishment" wins again...:p

Now go to the booth and vote Democrat you foolish old man:confused:

"We" will do the thinking around here...

:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
 
Further, it's really not hard to see how winning more states could still leave you behind in delegates via a proportional allocation system.
 
wcowherd said:
Further, it's really not hard to see how winning more states could still leave you behind in delegates via a proportional allocation system.
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I don't believe anyone has stated that it's hard to understand. But at the end of this primary season Bernie Sanders will have won the majority of votes in around 20 states against your dream girl. Many of those states she will need to win the general election. If Trump even makes her sweat that is a sad commentary.
 
millerbleach said:
Sanders wins 6 of the last 7 states and his total goes down. Gotta love that Dem math.
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Because how things happened affected the projection of the future. There was no doubt he would win all of these really white caucuses. But the losses in the Midwest and the loss in the Arizona primary suggest he is not on track to do well enough in California, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc.
 
Duck_walk said:
I don't believe anyone has stated that it's hard to understand. But at the end of this primary season Bernie Sanders will have won the majority of votes in around 20 states against your dream girl. Many of those states she will need to win the general election. If Trump even makes her sweat that is a sad commentary.
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Hillary won Florida, Ohio, and Virginia - the three biggest swing states.

Not to mention the average Sanders voter has a high opinion of Hillary and is very, very likely to vote for her.

This also isn't terribly important as long as the Rs are picking Trump, the Ds could run a corpse and win.
 
I notice on this board and just talking to others that there is a divide in Democratic party. It is not as large as what we see in the Republican party at this time but still it is there. The majority of Democrats that are on the Hillary band wagon are those who seem better off then the average person? Those for Bernie really cannot see themselves voting for Hillary and while they would not admit it they see her being just as dishonest and evil as those in the Republican party. Seems that what use to be the backbone of the Democratic party the true working class, are either supporting Bernie or have moved on to Trump. Dems who are better off and consider themselves centrist and lean more towards the Republican philosophy of a market driven economy seem to support Hillary.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-g...ernie-sanders-not-vote-hillary_b_9475626.html
 
bullitpdq68 said:
I notice on this board and just talking to others that there is a divide in Democratic party. It is not as large as what we see in the Republican party at this time but still it is there. The majority of Democrats that are on the Hillary band wagon are those who seem better off then the average person? Those for Bernie really cannot see themselves voting for Hillary and while they would not admit it they see her being just as dishonest and evil as those in the Republican party. Seems that what use to be the backbone of the Democratic party the true working class, are either supporting Bernie or have moved on to Trump. Dems who are better off and consider themselves centrist and lean more towards the Republican philosophy of a market driven economy seem to support Hillary.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-g...ernie-sanders-not-vote-hillary_b_9475626.html
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The bolded comment is only true if you are thinking of white voters. Hillary is running up huge margins with lower income minorities, who are a major part of the D electorate.

The real Hillary/Bernie divide is race and age, not income. Hillary is killing it with seniors and black voters. Bernie is winning with white people under 35. Neither one is running up a huge margin on the other with college grads/people making over $100k according to the exit polls.

Polls suggest the average Bernie voter is extremely likely to end up backing Clinton.

As you note, the middle-aged/baby boomer white working class moved to the R party a long time ago. Obama lost white people aged 30-65 by 20-25 points against Romney. The backbone of the D party is not the white working class except for those who still have union jobs, it's a conglomeration of minorities, younger women, nonreligious/not materially religious people, the poor, unions, and people with graduate degrees. Minorities, highly educated, and nonreligious are all growing in importance.
 
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Neutron Monster said:
The bolded comment is only true if you are thinking of white voters. Hillary is running up huge margins with lower income minorities, who are a major part of the D electorate.

The real Hillary/Bernie divide is race and age, not income. Hillary is killing it with seniors and black voters. Bernie is winning with white people under 35. Neither one is running up a huge margin on the other with college grads/people making over $100k according to the exit polls.

Polls suggest the average Bernie voter is extremely likely to end up backing Clinton.

As you note, the middle-aged/baby boomer white working class moved to the R party a long time ago. The backbone of the D party is not the white working class except for those who still have union jobs, it's a conglomeration of minorities, younger women, nonreligious/not materially religious people, the poor, unions, and people with graduate degrees. Minorities, highly educated, and nonreligious are all growing in importance.
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Well I think he has minority voters.

Twitter is expertly skewering the corporate media for erasing the contributions that people of color have made to the Bernie Sanders campaign with #BernieMadeMeWhite.

Two of the last three states Bernie Sanders won by landslide margins — Alaska and Hawaii — are also very ethnically diverse. One-third of Alaska’s population is Native American, Asian, Black, Pacific Islander, or of mixed race. And three-fourths of Hawaii’s population is made up of people of color, with nearly 50 percent being Asian.

Furthermore, Washington State ranks among the ten most ethnically diverse states in the country. But this didn’t stop cable media pundits from belittling Bernie Sanders’ victories by falsely claiming that the populations of those states are mostly white in order to justify the false narrative that the Vermont senator is unable to connect to nonwhite voters.

Twitter didn’t let the corporate media live down their mistake, either. After writer Leslie Lee III, who tweets@tokyovampires, created the #BernieMadeMeWhite hashtag, the social media network let loose:

http://usuncut.com/politics/berniemademewhite-is-top-trend-and-it-is-hilarious/
 
He has minority voters, but he's almost certainly winning the white vote and losing the minority vote pretty badly when you look at the state by state results and exit polls. Look at the South. Look at Texas. Look at Arizona. Look at how he did in St. Louis City/County. Look at Florida.

The reality is that the diversity of Alaska and Hawaii is different than the diversity in the rest of the country. And those states were caucuses, not primaries. He's been crushed by black voters, and it appears that Hillary has been winning the Hispanic vote so far as well.

Not to mention the fact that Hillary's numbers remain huge among non-black/Hispanic minorities and that Trump's numbers are really, really bad with those groups. Those are not votes in a general election that Hillary is worried about. She's going to win Hawaii and Washington with ease, and she isn't going to win Alaska in all likelihood.
 
Neutron Monster said:
He has minority voters, but he's almost certainly winning the white vote and losing the minority vote pretty badly when you look at the state by state results and exit polls. Look at the South. Look at Texas. Look at Arizona. Look at how he did in St. Louis City/County. Look at Florida.

The reality is that the diversity of Alaska and Hawaii is different than the diversity in the rest of the country. And those states were caucuses, not primaries.

Black women have been huge for Hillary.
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Despite denials, Southern Blacks blindly voted as one monolithic block for Hillary/Bill.
If not, this thing would be neck and neck.
 
Duck_walk said:
Despite denials, Southern Blacks blindly voted as one monolithic block for Hillary/Bill.
If not, this thing would be neck and neck.
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Black women are the bedrock of the Hillary Clinton campaign, just as they were for Barack Obama.

This is a major block in a number of swing states - a good sign for Clinton in a general election.
 
Neutron Monster said:
He has minority voters, but he's almost certainly winning the white vote and losing the minority vote pretty badly when you look at the state by state results and exit polls. Look at the South. Look at Texas. Look at Arizona. Look at how he did in St. Louis City/County. Look at Florida.

The reality is that the diversity of Alaska and Hawaii is different than the diversity in the rest of the country. And those states were caucuses, not primaries. He's been crushed by black voters, and it appears that Hillary has been winning the Hispanic vote so far as well.
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Its because the main stream media has used kid gloves with Hillary

The love affair between black folks and the Clintons has been going on for a long time. It began back in 1992, when Bill Clinton was running for president. He threw on some shades and played the saxophone on The Arsenio Hall Show. It seems silly in retrospect, but many of us fell for that. At a time when a popular slogan was “It’s a black thing; you wouldn’t understand,” Bill seemed to get us. When Toni Morrison dubbed him our first black president, we nodded our heads. We had our boy in the White House. Or at least we thought we did.

Black voters have been remarkably loyal to the Clintons for more than 25 years. It’s true that we eventually lined up behind Barack Obama in 2008, but it’s a measure of the Clinton allure that Hillary led Obama among black voters until he started winning caucuses and primaries. Now Hillary is running again. This time she’s facing a democratic socialist who promises a political revolution that will bring universal health care, a living wage, an end to rampant Wall Street greed and the dismantling of the vast prison state—many of the same goals that Martin Luther King Jr. championed at the end of his life. Even so, black folks are sticking with the Clinton brand.

What have the Clintons done to earn such devotion? Did they take extreme political risks to defend the rights of African Americans? Did they courageously stand up to right-wing demagoguery about black communities? Did they help usher in a new era of hope and prosperity for neighborhoods devastated by deindustrialization, globalization and the disappearance of work?

No. Quite the opposite.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/pol...k_america_so_why_are_we_still_voting_for.html
 
That's a very odd claim to make in this campaign given the coverage of the emails and what not. Not to mention the fact that everyone had an opinion of Hillary Clinton long before this campaign began. Sanders has had plenty of coverage and attention, and it hasn't been unfair coverage. I get that you don't like Hillary but it's not like they've been running puff piece after puff piece and ignoring Sanders.

The fairer point is that the party structure is completely in the tank for her, the DNC did everything in its power to make Hillary the nominee.
 
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