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The "race card" and it still have meaning?

I have a feeling MU will suffer from this episode. They could have played it straight up, and gained some respect. Instead they chose to bow to the lowest common denominator, we will see how that turns out.
 
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These were young people of all colors and professions. Most trying to get a college education or providing an education. Not sure that would be considered the lowest common denominator. They brought about change with no guns and no riots. I don't really agree with how they went about it, but I don't really know how bad the situation had become.
 
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I would hypothesis the situation had not become that bad.

High end students, lots of money , duping others into fighting their fight. MU took the low road, sad day for them.

This will probably end badly for MU, when the facts are known. Their own faculty siding with troublemakers and racist.
 
I would hypothesis the situation had not become that bad.

High end students, lots of money , duping others into fighting their fight. MU took the low road, sad day for them.

This will probably end badly for MU, when the facts are known. Their own faculty siding with troublemakers and racist.
You seem to know things that are not being reported. Do you live in Columbia? Seems like the racist may have been the Pres. Just saying.
 
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You seem to know things that are not being reported. Do you live in Columbia? Seems like the racist may have been the Pres. Just saying.
The leader of the protest claims to be an opressed, poor black student. Turns out his family is worth about $20million. But maybe they kicked him out of the house, who knows.
 
I read an article yesterday, by Whitlock, whom I almost never agree with. However, he made an interesting point. The problem was exacerbated by a person who got the president job without having been in education. He went on to suggest an educator would have seen the winds of discontent swirling and could have headed them off LONG before it ever got to the point it was at. I can't disagree with that. I think, those of us who have been coaches, know when things start to get ugly, and know when it's time to step in before it gets out of control. Someone who has never been in education doesn't know that. I think several of those things could have been handled better and less dramatic as individual cases rather than let it become what it became.
 
I read an article yesterday, by Whitlock, whom I almost never agree with. However, he made an interesting point. The problem was exacerbated by a person who got the president job without having been in education. He went on to suggest an educator would have seen the winds of discontent swirling and could have headed them off LONG before it ever got to the point it was at. I can't disagree with that. I think, those of us who have been coaches, know when things start to get ugly, and know when it's time to step in before it gets out of control. Someone who has never been in education doesn't know that. I think several of those things could have been handled better and less dramatic as individual cases rather than let it become what it became.
Doesn't the president have 'people' that should be catching that kind of stuff early, including coaches? He can't possibly be that much in touch with all the stuff that goes on in the student body. Maybe he was told and did nothing, I have no idea.
 
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Lot of people who the Pres. and Chancellor would like to stand by them left them out there on their own. Teachers, Coaches, Grad students. left the brass without a fight. They top brass chose to take on Planned Parenthood and I think that was a big mistake.
 
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Doesn't the president have 'people' that should be catching that kind of stuff early, including coaches? He can't possibly be that much in touch with all the stuff that goes on in the student body. Maybe he was told and did nothing, I have no idea.
I don't disagree, but who is going to pay the price in a political climate? Look at how many things we read these "conservatives" complain about, that we all know never made it to President Obama's desk, but they all want him fired.
 
This proves to me you are an idiot. Ignored.
Have to agree with Ducky when you make lame post's like that WC and on the other hand you probably believe all Americans should speak English or be kicked out of this country.
 
Nooooo honestly, I spent countless hours in k-12 learning proper rules of English and such. I graduated and went out into the real world just all ready for someone to ask me to diagram a sentence for them or conjugate some of them verbs or adverbial a or some such and it just has never happened.

And with scientific calculators available for less than $10,,,or free on your iPhone why are we wasting countless hours teaching kids to do math manually. It's time we realize the world we live in and just teach them how to use a calculator.

It would make as much sense as teaching them how to harness a team of mules instead of how to drive a car
 
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Nooooo honestly, I spent countless hours in k-12 learning proper rules of English and such. I graduated and went out into the real world just all ready for someone to ask me to diagram a sentence for them or conjugate some of them verbs or adverbial a or some such and it just has never happened.

And with scientific calculators available for less than $10,,,or free on your iPhone why are we wasting countless hours teaching kids to do math manually. It's time we realize the world we live in and just teach them how to use a calculator.

It would make as much sense as teaching them how to harness a team of mules instead of how to drive a car
I rest my case.
 
Nooooo honestly, I spent countless hours in k-12 learning proper rules of English and such. I graduated and went out into the real world just all ready for someone to ask me to diagram a sentence for them or conjugate some of them verbs or adverbial a or some such and it just has never happened.

And with scientific calculators available for less than $10,,,or free on your iPhone why are we wasting countless hours teaching kids to do math manually. It's time we realize the world we live in and just teach them how to use a calculator.

It would make as much sense as teaching them how to harness a team of mules instead of how to drive a car
I work as a consultant.. A large % of my job is communication. It looks very unprofessional when one uses poor grammar or cannot spell. I couldn't tell you the last time I diagrammed a sentence, but you need to be proficient at English to have any chance of being successful at my job. Using spell check software is not a substitute for having a basic understanding of spelling.

As for the math, you need to understand the concepts. I agree we use advanced technology in the real world, and we should train people on that, but your ability to understand the basic concepts is required in order to advance into the more challenging parts of the math curriculum. That requires understanding the steps of how to solve an algebraic equation. That means understanding how multiplication works beyond pressing "3," "x,", "5," "=" on a calculator. If you don't do the steps manually, it's very difficult for most people to understand the problem they are solving.
 
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so you think it makes sense to spend countless hours teaching children skills they don't need and will never use just to keep teachers employed.
I think you have to think about what makes sense - I don't see the value in teaching cursive, for instance, beyond teaching people how to read it. It's not an essential skill that the average person needs in 2015.

Grammar and the steps of basic math problems are fundamental items you have to understand to function at a high school education level.
 
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It's not the fact that you can solve a mathematical equation but can you apply the theory behind it to solve a problem. Yes, it's very simple to find a tool to solve an equation BUT, what if they equation is not just given to you but you have to create it from the real world problem that is facing you. Do you have the skills to CREATE the equation that describes your real world problem? Solving the equation is always the easy part.

100% agree with Neutron on English. You have to be able to express yourself clearly in written communication to have any chance at MANY jobs. In our school systems right now, we don't make kids write enough. Being able to put your thoughts down on paper in a clear and concise manner is a skill that involves much more than just English. You are required to think, organize your thoughts and present them in a manner that appeals to others.

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In my opinion, our current school curriculum does not require kids to THINK enough; to think logically, to be able to organize their thoughts, to think about meanings behind the methods, to be able to reason, etc. We are not producing THINKERS.
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I agree. Problem solving/independent thinking is the weakest skill of the avg college grad. People are too focused on learning how to do things instead of learning how to figure out how to do things.

The biggest writing weakness I see is a failure to focus on the key message. You're writing an email, not a research paper.
 
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I can't do the math I use at my job everyday on any calculator, unless you know of some calculator that solves partial differential equations.
 
I can't do the math I use at my job everyday on any calculator, unless you know of some calculator that solves partial differential equations.
Well, we are probably in the top 1% in terms of our usage of math on a daily basis. If you're like me, all of the gory details of our calculations are almost certainly carried out by specialized calculation software that we check with individual iterative scenarios and other focused reviews.

No one is calculating an actuarial liability by hand in 2015. Heck, they weren't doing so in 1980.
 
Well, we are probably in the top 1% in terms of our usage of math on a daily basis. If you're like me, all of the gory details of our calculations are almost certainly carried out by specialized calculation software that we check with individual iterative scenarios and other focused reviews.

No one is calculating an actuarial liability by hand in 2015. Heck, they weren't doing so in 1980.
For me, I use software because it's impossible for any human to run Monte Carlo calculations for billions of particles. I still need to know how the computer solves the problems so I can write code to interface with the software. But yes, the computer is used to do the heavy lifting.
 
Ahh, cow talking all that particle mumbo jumbo. Next thing you know, you will be discussing quantifiable evidence of the racism at Mizzou, based on the actions or inactions of those in authority at the fine institution.
 
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