Harrisonville
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Harrisonville will be just fine. I saw them play in week one and they were really young. If I remember correctly mostly Sophomores and some Freshmen! It is nearly impossible for 14 and 15 year old boys to compete with 17 and 18 year olds. But on the bright side look out in two years because those kids will be seasoned vets looking to give back what they received. That town is too good of a football town to stay down for very long!!
Makes sense. Thanks. And that last sentence is what had me so curious really.
I thought they were pretty Junior heavy (mostly Jr/Soph) - and the juniors that I saw weren't impressive. My takeaway was "what happened to their seniors?", and that their juniors aren't going to be dominant next season (i.e. those kids aren't playing because they're studs - they're playing because there is nobody better.)
Hate to say it, but Harrisonville's V really should be competing at the JV level this season. I'm not sure that the beat downs they've received this year will build them up for next season. I didn't expect them to win a game, guess they found someone on the kansas side of state line to beat.
Lamar started there dynasty in 07 without winning a game. Why you ask it started then? Because they were so bad and so thin at Jr and Sr grades that the majority of the starters were freshman. In 4 years they played in the first of how ever many state title games they have been to in a row now. Varsity experience that early in your prep career is liquid finite.
Players who are not talented enough are going to be not talented enough whether they start 4 years or 1.
Didn't this timeline kind of follow the tenure of the Lamar HC too - I'd make the argument that the latter is more relevant than the former. Not to mention the fact that there are generally a lot more freshmen and sophs playing class II than class IV. It wouldn't matter how early Harrisonville starts them - they're not going going to dominate their class the way Lamar has ran Class 2.
As I said, my observation of H'ville was more "what the heck happened to them (uppersclassmen)", than "whoa, they're loaded with young talent"...
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Did they play a freshman season? Their JV lost to Kearney 62-0. And lost two of their three other games,
Most public schools have ups and downs. Harrisonville obviously is not immune. Bad programs have more downs and good ones have more ups. Harrisonville has the tradition to bounce back quickly. Nothing said that everyone doesn’t already know. Typically too there is more of a rollercoaster in smaller schools because a talented class or two (or non-talented) can make for a big swing in success. All that to say on here again that what Lamar has done leaves me scratching my head. 7 titles in a row by a small public school is crazy.
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OG is way, way down. That being said I will have that one in Pick Em.............
Harrisonville and Oak Grove will be a heck of game, I really think this one will come down to who scores the most points.
Isn't that normally who wins? The team that scores the most points? Lol!
Well I believe it will come down to who doesn't give up the most points.
Is the glass half empty or half full? Depends on your perspective I guess.
It certainly has been a while since Harrisonville has had a down season like this years.
2001 (1-9)
2002 (8-3) C3 Sectionals
2003 (14-0) C3 Champs
2004 (12-2) C3 Runner-up
2005 (13-1) C3 Champs
2006 (14-0) C3 Champs
2007 (14-0) C3 Champs
2008 (9-3) C4 Sectionals
2009 (11-2) C4 Quarterfinals
2010 (12-2) C4 Semifinals
2011 (11-2) C4 Quarterfinals
2012 (11-3) C4 Semifinals
2013 (6-4)
2014 (11-2) C4 Quarterfinals
2015 (12-1) C4 Semifinals
2016 (12-3) C4 Champs
2017 (9-4) C4 Quarterfinals
2018 (1-5) with 3 regular season games remaining and a 1st round District game.
2001 (1-9)
2002 (8-3) C3 Sectionals
2003 (14-0) C3 Champs
2004 (12-2) C3 Runner-up
2005 (13-1) C3 Champs
2006 (14-0) C3 Champs
2007 (14-0) C3 Champs
2008 (9-3) C4 Sectionals
2009 (11-2) C4 Quarterfinals
2010 (12-2) C4 Semifinals
2011 (11-2) C4 Quarterfinals
2012 (11-3) C4 Semifinals
2013 (6-4)
2014 (11-2) C4 Quarterfinals
2015 (12-1) C4 Semifinals
2016 (12-3) C4 Champs
2017 (9-4) C4 Quarterfinals
2018 (1-5) with 3 regular season games remaining and a 1st round District game.
Harrisonville is one of those programs that you just pencil in 8-9 wins even in a down year. It is surprising to see them so far down.
Not to make this about Lamar but someone decided to do so. So I’ll ask. Are you really suggesting none of these boys from Lamar are good? And it’s all coaching? Have you watched them ever?
As a great old football coach once to me, "Sometime you just don't have enough animal's in your zoo."
In high school it’s about the Bobby’s and Joe’s more than the X’s and O’s. Unless your Webb City. Then you can have running backs who run 4.8 40’s and 160 lb middle linebackers and somehow still win state. Not this year obviously, those dudes are fast.
Way to try to turn the thread from Lamar to Webb City. The tug of war is on.
I can't say what the breakdown is in importance between super talent and great coaching but I appreciate great coaching NOW more than I ever did years ago. With no one (parents or kids) wanting to work hard for things much anymore? It takes some actual talent to motivate these kids to hang in, work hard, and reach their potential.
Harrisonville, has some of the best boosters in the state. They are doing fine Bosko. Thanks for the concern but booster wise we have it under control.
You are most certainly welcome. You cant fault a guy for trying to help can ya?
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