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Teachers are not essential but grocery store workers are? I never thought of teachers as non-essential but I guess I will start.

Now it is suggested that Skype calls and Zoom meetings can adequately replace our 700 billion dollar public education behemoth.

Somehow not facing a disease in which 99.35% of all people survive, is too much imagine.

The education system is so incredibly inessential that we can afford for it to close up shop indefinitely while we wait for a potential cure for a disease that poses a mild risk to everyone below retirement age and an extremely low risk to children.
 
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We can still have schools opening


Makes sense

If they decide to not reopen schools for safety reason, I could be all for it. But if they do it close to anything like they did at the end of last year...then we need to cut teachers pay to reflect their actual work load. We need to let many other support staff go, because do we need to be paying School building principles, assistant principles, AD's all those that we need when in buildings versus not.
 
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Your tax dollars have been used to pay the Trump org tens of millions of dollars so he could play golf surrounded by the secret service. We flew junior over to kill a rare animal overseas. Ivanka got seven trademarks from China, just because. So, yea I do.

You cannot have it both ways....I think the schools should be open their doors and let the parents decide if they want to send them or do online classes. I know many parents who cannot work from home so it leaves many kids at home alone with no supervision.
 
LOL, maybe I should, but maybe I am not at work either..... But honestly Duck should we be paying people to do a job they are not doing, just because?
You are right. Teachers and schools have had al summer to figure out distance learning to a point. What I will say is I think I could do some interesting fun activities, the problem is no one has addressed the internet issue.
 
You are right. Teachers and schools have had al summer to figure out distance learning to a point. What I will say is I think I could do some interesting fun activities, the problem is no one has addressed the internet issue.

I know our school worked hard to try and make sure anybody who didn't have internet did. But still when kids who are between the ages of 4-13 who are left at alone at home, how many of them do you think are going to get on the internet to do school, with no adult supervision? That was the biggest issue I heard.
 
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You cannot have it both ways....I think the schools should be open their doors and let the parents decide if they want to send them or do online classes. I know many parents who cannot work from home so it leaves many kids at home alone with no supervision.

You can't have it both ways either.....How about when parents choose to keep their children home and schools are open, the teacher has to have lesson plans for the regular classroom and one for the students at home? They are going to be working their butts off, and have to do much online work at home. That's the biggest complaint I hear. Are you willing to pay them for the extra workload.
 
You can't have it both ways either.....How about when parents choose to keep their children home and schools are open, the teacher has to have lesson plans for the regular classroom and one for the students at home? They are going to be working their butts off, and have to do much online work at home. That's the biggest complaint I hear. Are you willing to pay them for the extra workload.
No you, ........! School districts have teachers applying to teach online only. While the others will teach in person.

Get with the program.
 
Maybe at Ladue. Most schools are operating on a reduced budget. You know - with Gov Parsons defunding public schools with $132M cuts.
 
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Maybe at Ladue. Most schools are operating on a reduced budget. You know - with Gov Parsons defunding public schools with $132M cuts.
False. My wife is a teacher in one of the best school districts in MO. Teachers are applying to teach online while everyone else will attend class 4 days a week.
 
Rockwood? Have a niece there. I hadn't heard of that at SG but I'm guessing very few will opt to stay home, esp with low number of cases.
 
I know our school worked hard to try and make sure anybody who didn't have internet did. But still when kids who are between the ages of 4-13 who are left at alone at home, how many of them do you think are going to get on the internet to do school, with no adult supervision? That was the biggest issue I heard.
If somebody is leaving 4 to 10 year old's home alone we have real problem. 11 to 13 is pretty iffy too.
 
If we don't have school because of covid, how long are you prepared to hold that view?
Kids are at least 4 times as likely to die from the flu as covid.
https://freopp.org/estimating-the-r...vs-influenza-or-pneumonia-by-age-630aea3ae5a9
Based on that analysis, what is striking is that those under the age of 25 are at significantly lower risk of death from COVID-19 than of the flu. Under our assumptions, for example, school-aged children between 5 and 14 have a 1 in 200,000 chance of dying of influenza, but a 1 in 2.5 million chance of dying of COVID-19.
And after four months of the pandemic we now know that children are SEVEN TIMES more likely to die from the flu than from the coronavirus!

Schools are opening in some places for certain. Trump needs to get his scientists together and provide guidance. School superintendents aren't scientists and don't have access to the latest information.

For instance, what if cases start popping up in schools? What is the threshold of number of cases to warrant shutting down? This morning the head of the CDC would not answer that specific question. Evidently a number that has been suggested is if 5% of students test positive, the school should shut down. The CDC head refused to confirm the 5% or any number to shut down a school with growing numbers of positives. But these are the types of questions that must be answered ahead of time.

We need national leadership with a national plan based on science to open schools, and we are not getting it from this administration.
 
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Schools are opening in some places for certain. Trump needs to get his scientists together and provide guidance. School superintendents aren't scientists and don't have access to the latest information.

For instance, what if cases start popping up in schools? What is the threshold of number of cases to warrant shutting down? This morning the head of the CDC would not answer that specific question. Evidently a number that has been suggested is if 5% of students test positive, the school should shut down. The CDC head refused to confirm the 5% or any number to shut down a school with growing numbers of positives. But these are the types of questions that must be answered ahead of time.

We need national leadership with a national plan based on science to open schools, and we are not getting it from this administration.
Here is science... How many kids under the age of 18 have died because of Covid in the US?
 
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That problem is called NO SCHOOL!
After decades of training everyone that school provides breakfast, lunch, dinner, after hours programs, transportation, and overall life training, peoples lives are built around school being necessary for life to function.

exactly! not that schools should be considered a baby sitter, but many parents have built their life around how things worked.
We send our little ones to school and then the YMCA provides after school care until we can pick them up around 5. During the summer the YMCA provides a summer program and many kids go there along with the YMCA providing meals. If school doesn't open in the fall and people still work were are these kids going to go, Yes there will be 4 year olds being watched by older siblings because there are no openings in Daycare. But I am sure @Moscow_Mitch has a solution.

I also know from attending board meetings that in our district over 40% of our kids are on reduce lunches and hunger is one of the biggest issues many kids will face if schools don't open.
 
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We had this discussion a month ago. The important time to deal with this was in January and February. The freakin horse ran out the barn when he left the door open. We are screwed.

Hindsight is always 20/20, so again how do we proceed? Duck I am sure you find it very easy to sit on the sideline with your head in the sand screaming how much you hate the orange man but never offer any ideas. But again what is your solution? Or school is offering two options although not idea it gives parents a choice. In seat classes 5 days or online 5 days. Not sure exactly how they are going to do the online yet, my thoughts some sort of zoom when the teacher is lecturing and then homework.
 
Hindsight is always 20/20, so again how do we proceed? Duck I am sure you find it very easy to sit on the sideline with your head in the sand screaming how much you hate the orange man but never offer any ideas. But again what is your solution? Or school is offering two options although not idea it gives parents a choice. In seat classes 5 days or online 5 days. Not sure exactly how they are going to do the online yet, my thoughts some sort of zoom when the teacher is lecturing and then homework.

The problem is Trump/fed gov hasn't established any guidelines for schools to follow. Is fed gov going to fund all the hand sanitizers, thermometers, masks, and other precautions? What are the guidelines once schools do open and an outbreak occurs? Do you shut down to sanitize after a positive test? Do you quarantine everyone who had close contact with the positive? What is the threshold of positives that warrant shutting a school down? Some have suggested that if a school reaches 5% positive results, the school should completely shut down. But for how many days? Superintendents don't have access to all the scientific information and need guidelines to proceed.

Trump's plan seems to be open the schools and hope for the best.
 
The problem is Trump/fed gov hasn't established any guidelines for schools to follow. Is fed gov going to fund all the hand sanitizers, thermometers, masks, and other precautions? What are the guidelines once schools do open and an outbreak occurs? Do you shut down to sanitize after a positive test? Do you quarantine everyone who had close contact with the positive? What is the threshold of positives that warrant shutting a school down? Some have suggested that if a school reaches 5% positive results, the school should completely shut down. But for how many days? Superintendents don't have access to all the scientific information and need guidelines to proceed.

Trump's plan seems to be open the schools and hope for the best.
Decisions made by the local in collaboration with schools close by and the state is the best way. These kids will have hand sanitizer masks along with Iphones, backpacks, and earbuds.
 
Decisions made by the local in collaboration with schools close by and the state is the best way. These kids will have hand sanitizer masks along with Iphones, backpacks, and earbuds.

Public schools = free education You cannot force anyone to buy an Iphone or anything. Yeah, they have to have paper and pencils, but the misc. inexpensive items are understood - more of a suggestion than an enforceable rule. Schools would have to supply an Iphone for anyone would couldn't afford one.
 
Public schools = free education You cannot force anyone to buy an Iphone or anything. Yeah, they have to have paper and pencils, but the misc. inexpensive items are understood - more of a suggestion than an enforceable rule. Schools would have to supply an Iphone for anyone would couldn't afford one.
Yes. The teachers will have those big bottles of sanitizers and masks. How they get the supplies or who pays for it will range from the teacher on up or from the parents and donations.
 
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