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With all the hot air Trump blows, carbon dioxide emissions could very well be at an all-time high, as well.
I can't tell your well informed on climate change. You're like Trump today. You know everything. Is this hypocritical?
 
I can't tell your well informed on climate change. You're like Trump today. You know everything. Is this hypocritical?
I’ve said before, I don’t know enough to claim to be even a semi-expert. But those who have the tools and knowledge have convinced me that we need to make changes or at the least, slow down/cut back.
 
I’ve said before, I don’t know enough to claim to be even a semi-expert. But those who have the tools and knowledge have convinced me that we need to make changes or at the least, slow down/cut back.
They have no solutions. Its impossible. Superstitions are more reliable.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
 
They have no solutions. Its impossible. Superstitions are more reliable.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
So are you saying the entire world is wrong and wasting their time and effort belonging to the Paris Accord and Trump’s gut is so much smarter for pulling us out?
 
So are you saying the entire world is wrong and wasting their time and effort belonging to the Paris Accord and Trump’s gut is so much smarter for pulling us out?
Again, I've researched this on my own. I've listened to and read many different detailed as well as general cases of pro and con hypothesis. I've listened to opinions of scientists that study climate.

There's strong evidence supporting the claims, but even if all the claims are 100% accurate, we have no realistic global solutions, nor do we have a base of data that can support the supposition that what we're doing is working.

Our money can be spent better by addressing the needs of human progress and reducing pollution.

I'd rather see them invent the machine to clean up the ocean it's no less feasible.

I don't agree with Bloomberg, he's a crook.
 
I’ve said before, I don’t know enough to claim to be even a semi-expert. But those who have the tools and knowledge have convinced me that we need to make changes or at the least, slow down/cut back.
Could you name those who have convinced you? Name them please.
 
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Could you name those who have convinced you? Name them please.
Let’s see ... Thelma Lou, Andy, Barney, Gomer, Goober, Floyd, Aunt Bee, Sgt. Carter, Bo Duke and Luke Duke. Uncle Jesse helped for awhile, too. I spent many an evening with Daisy while they were all out checking thermometers and such ... the memories.
Ask a silly question, get a silly answer.
 
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As I thought. You just believe what is fed to you. There is no reason to believe what you do. Nameless "the experts say" people are not what you should trust.
 
As I thought. You just believe what is fed to you. There is no reason to believe what you do. Nameless "the experts say" people are not what you should trust.
... and you’re an expert? One I should blindly follow since your gut knows more than those with the tools and means to measure such things?
Why don’t you believe scientists and instead opt to believe Trump’s gut?
 
... and you’re an expert? One I should blindly follow since your gut knows more than those with the tools and means to measure such things?
Why don’t you believe scientists and instead opt to believe Trump’s gut?
He gets his scientific info from Ben Shapiro and Tomi
 
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... and you’re an expert? One I should blindly follow since your gut knows more than those with the tools and means to measure such things?
Why don’t you believe scientists and instead opt to believe Trump’s gut?

I am no expert, never have claimed to be, nice (not really) try though.
What I do have is 50+ years of hearing the supposed experts promise imminent doom in various forms with ZERO accuracy. If that makes them experts, why am I not?
When have I said I trusted Trumps gut? Another attempt (poor attempt) to put words in my mouth.
 
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I am no expert, never have claimed to be, nice (not really) try though.
What I do have is 50+ years of hearing the supposed experts promise imminent doom in various forms with ZERO accuracy. If that makes them experts, why am I not?
When have I said I trusted Trumps gut? Another attempt (poor attempt) to put words in my mouth.
I was told to quit asking so many questions so I guess I’ve got to be more direct and rude.

If you noticed in my last post I went ahead and ASKED if you were an expert. Nice try (not really) putting words in my mouth.

You never said you trust Trump’s gut. I was giving you an out so you didn’t appear to be an expert (which you obviously aren’t). I’m glad you tongue-lashed me to tell me I was wrong that you don’t know as much as you’d like us to believe.
 
I was told to quit asking so many questions so I guess I’ve got to be more direct and rude.

If you noticed in my last post I went ahead and ASKED if you were an expert. Nice try (not really) putting words in my mouth.

You never said you trust Trump’s gut. I was giving you an out so you didn’t appear to be an expert (which you obviously aren’t). I’m glad you tongue-lashed me to tell me I was wrong that you don’t know as much as you’d like us to believe.
There's a 1% chance that any asteroid could hit earth and wipe out civilization. We monitor 90% of the existing threats.
Why? Because it's not cost effective.
If we could look at the top 10 problems facing mankind, prioritize them by getting the best bang for buck, with the most effectiveness, I bet global warming is not in the top 8.
There's a finite amount of resources to solve a problem.
How many lives do immunizations save in our world? Can we immunize the world and wipe out tuberculosis? HIV is no longer the biggest killer, what is?
We have the technology to grow enough food to feed the world. How do we do this? Fertilizer comes from fossil fuels. Conundrum.
If we flipped off all carbon emissions today what would be effect on the world? Its people.
Early childhood nutrition has the deepest effect on the brain in the first two years of life. People that are the most vulnerable and dispossed are absolute poverty infants, how about addressing this. Its solvable.
Cognitive ability is the biggest predictor of success. How about addressing this in a global way?
I don't know why the same people that used to be concerned with problems like these, are more concerned with global warming when in the analysis we have solvable problems, with the least amount of resources used. That's why I am suspicious.
You can make the argument that people that want to drastically change our energy consumption want a moral reason to fundamentally change economies.
How do we get the biggest bang for our buck in changing the environmental carbon emissions over the next 100 years?
I don't know the answers. Trump doesn't know. Bloomberg is not asking.
 
There's a 1% chance that any asteroid could hit earth and wipe out civilization. We monitor 90% of the existing threats.
Why? Because it's not cost effective.
If we could look at the top 10 problems facing mankind, prioritize them by getting the best bang for buck, with the most effectiveness, I bet global warming is not in the top 8.
There's a finite amount of resources to solve a problem.
How many lives do immunizations save in our world? Can we immunize the world and wipe out tuberculosis? HIV is no longer the biggest killer, what is?
We have the technology to grow enough food to feed the world. How do we do this? Fertilizer comes from fossil fuels. Conundrum.
If we flipped off all carbon emissions today what would be effect on the world? Its people.
Early childhood nutrition has the deepest effect on the brain in the first two years of life. People that are the most vulnerable and dispossed are absolute poverty infants, how about addressing this. Its solvable.
Cognitive ability is the biggest predictor of success. How about addressing this in a global way?
I don't know why the same people that used to be concerned with problems like these, are more concerned with global warming when in the analysis we have solvable problems, with the least amount of resources used. That's why I am suspicious.
You can make the argument that people that want to drastically change our energy consumption want a moral reason to fundamentally change economies.
How do we get the biggest bang for our buck in changing the environmental carbon emissions over the next 100 years?
I don't know the answers. Trump doesn't know. Bloomberg is not asking.
I don’t claim to know the answers either. But I do feel if we all attempt to cut back on some of our own personal footprint not only would we save a bit of money we may even save our planet. I’m not saying anything drastic. Just a bit here and there. Everyone. It would all add up.
 
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There's a 1% chance that any asteroid could hit earth and wipe out civilization. We monitor 90% of the existing threats.
Why? Because it's not cost effective.
If we could look at the top 10 problems facing mankind, prioritize them by getting the best bang for buck, with the most effectiveness, I bet global warming is not in the top 8.
There's a finite amount of resources to solve a problem.
How many lives do immunizations save in our world? Can we immunize the world and wipe out tuberculosis? HIV is no longer the biggest killer, what is?
We have the technology to grow enough food to feed the world. How do we do this? Fertilizer comes from fossil fuels. Conundrum.
If we flipped off all carbon emissions today what would be effect on the world? Its people.
Early childhood nutrition has the deepest effect on the brain in the first two years of life. People that are the most vulnerable and dispossed are absolute poverty infants, how about addressing this. Its solvable.
Cognitive ability is the biggest predictor of success. How about addressing this in a global way?
I don't know why the same people that used to be concerned with problems like these, are more concerned with global warming when in the analysis we have solvable problems, with the least amount of resources used. That's why I am suspicious.
You can make the argument that people that want to drastically change our energy consumption want a moral reason to fundamentally change economies.
How do we get the biggest bang for our buck in changing the environmental carbon emissions over the next 100 years?
I don't know the answers. Trump doesn't know. Bloomberg is not asking.
But it is cost effective to keep sending stuff to Mars to send back pictures and soil samples? :confused:
 
I don’t claim to know the answers either. But I do feel if we all attempt to cut back on some of our own personal footprint not only would we save a bit of money we may even save our planet. I’m not saying anything drastic. Just a bit here and there. Everyone. It would all add up.
Agree.
I'd like to see us solve the problems we can address. If we allocate all our resources or a huge amount in one area, the probability of solving the solvable goes down. We need priorities instead of chasing what makes the news as the apocalypse. I like your idea of increments. That's a start.
 
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I was told to quit asking so many questions so I guess I’ve got to be more direct and rude.

If you noticed in my last post I went ahead and ASKED if you were an expert. Nice try (not really) putting words in my mouth.

You never said you trust Trump’s gut. I was giving you an out so you didn’t appear to be an expert (which you obviously aren’t). I’m glad you tongue-lashed me to tell me I was wrong that you don’t know as much as you’d like us to believe.
Incorrect. I told you to quit making statements and putting a question mark behind them trying to make it appear you asked a question.

I answered with saying I never claimed to be an expert (so no). That wasn't putting words in your mouth.

I never have trusted Trumps gut! You have implied that was my source of belief but there is little value in Trumps gut instincts. I told you my source for my beliefs was 50+ years of the "experts" having ZERO accuracy with their doomsday predictions. If they were even close to accurate, we would have had another ice age, then melted the ice caps putting most of the coastline under water and had almost everything destroyed by the intense heat from global warming turning most of the US into dessert. Things are pretty much just like they were when the predictions (the ones I was told as a child until now) were made.
 
I don’t claim to know the answers either. But I do feel if we all attempt to cut back on some of our own personal footprint not only would we save a bit of money we may even save our planet. I’m not saying anything drastic. Just a bit here and there. Everyone. It would all add up.

I don't oppose anyone making any changes in their lifestyle they think are necessary or responsible. I do oppose trying to mandate people change their lifestyle in drastic or non-drastic ways.
 
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