Fire Matheny?
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Firing a Mgr. is one thing, but who do you hire? Worst season was this year at +10. Good luck finding an Mgr. Maybe we can pry Maddon from the Cubs. How many world series has he won,
It does say something that the very good braintrust that the Cubs have went out and spent a ton on him.
They get it that having a good manager adds value.
No doubt, but it still doesn't answer who you going to spend that money on. Knowing how the Birds work they probably aren't going to spend that kind of money on a Mgr. and the biggest problem with those who would like to see Matheny fired is don't sign the pay checks. From everything I read the DeWitt's and Mo (Cards brain trust) are happy with their Mgr. We must be spoiled to think that the Cards brain trust has not been successful because of Matheny.
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Thats wild. There's absolutely no reason to fire Matheny. Given the injuries we survived this year and STILL should've had a shot in the playoffs, it was a heck of a job by Matheny. Yes, losing Oquendo hurt us defensively but the run output is up. Which was nice for once. With some health next year, and finding another arm or 2 to help the rotation and bolster the bullpen, they'll be just fine!
Cards need defense more than they need another arm
It's easier and cheaper to make a weakness become average than it is to make something average become good
It's easier and cheaper to make a weakness become average than it is to make something average become good
That oped was from August 9th in something called viva elbirdos. It just showed up on here in October and I'm guessing Mo ain't buyin in to his thoughts. Maybe ducky will come back and tell Mo to get some more HR hitters since the Card's record was so good this year with over 200 HR's.
That oped was from August 9th in something called viva elbirdos. It just showed up on here in October and I'm guessing Mo ain't buyin in to his thoughts. Maybe ducky will come back and tell Mo to get some more HR hitters since the Card's record was so good this year with over 200 HR's.
I don't think homeruns caused the Cardinals to miss the playoffs, genius. It's called defense. It's legal to have power and defense on the same team. Decent baserunning is allowed also. Rosey cost them numerous games. Literally homeruns was the thing that kept them in contention you clueless boob.
Next level thinking Duck. But don't forget who kept running Rosie out there in the 9th. Playing his gut.
That wasn't the question. Who are you realistically going to hire to take his place? They passed on Francona for some reason. You do have to replace the guy if you fire him.
Oh, no. I get that. And really have zero clue why they passed on Tito. I'm not necessarily advocating for firing him. Just think it's an interesting conversation to have.
And you're making my point for me. There are very few great, and very few really bad managers, IMHO. The rest are just sort of decent at what they do. Those guys would do well with great rosters and poorly with poor rosters. The really good ones always seem to be competitive.
Let's be truthful. Bobby Cox won division title after division title with the Braves and he ain't exactly a brain surgeon. If your team is loaded you can get by with out having a Whitey Herzog.
I could win division titles if my starting pitchers could hit a spot 4" off the plate and get it called a strike 80% of the time.
That drove me bat crap with Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz.I could win division titles if my starting pitchers could hit a spot 4" off the plate and get it called a strike 80% of the time.
Maddux may have been the worst. He was very good at hitting spots but he benefited a ton from the wide zone. At least Smoltz had some heat and Glavine had the lefty thing. Maddux's change wouldn't have been near as effective if he had to throw his fastball over the plate.
Tidbit. A work buddy and I were walking down market street going to eat lunch one day and passed a guy going the other way. My buddy stopped and looked back. It was Maddux. Just out for a stroll in downtown StL. He was a lot bigger than I had thought. I had never seen him face to face.
They have. No argument there. Also think it's hard to argue the Cardinals haven't had one of the most competitive rosters as well. So we know half of it. I wonder how he would fare with a less than good roster.
You actually read something called el birdos?Yeah, hardly any Birds fans with an internet know what that is.
Dude, it's extremely relevant. Better Cards coverage than you'll find anywhere. Open your mind (tough concept, I know) and give it a read. You love the Birds, this I know. You'll dig this site.
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/
I'm all in on signing Turner.
Package Gyorko with prospects
and get a major upgrade in the outfield.
https://www.google.com/search?q=jus...X&ved=0ahUKEwj6i_SfwOnPAhVh2oMKHRb5CUkQsAQIGg
You're welcome. Just one more reason to get him.
I like Gyorko. I like any dude that can hit. Suppose it all depends on what's for the getting. But I really don't think the Birds have the juice (outside of Reyes/Martinez) to land anything of quality in CF.
Example a: Ned Yost the last 3 years. With that bullpen and the don't core, all he had to do was not put Soria in the game.... Saw how that went lol
They also had absolutely no money. Their 2008 WS team had an opening day payroll of just under $44 million
So he won with a bunch of rookies. Similar to what JM did last year. Are you trying to argue that STL has zero talent? Because I thought that was your big pride.....minor league talent flow that never ends
So he won with a bunch of rookies. Similar to what JM did last year. Are you trying to argue that STL has zero talent? Because I thought that was your big pride.....minor league talent flow that never ends
Doesn't matter who manages the cards until you get a roster that fits the
cardinal stadium the success rate will be under 500. Home run hitting
team like the cards will get beat a lot at home. They can't generate runs
with any type of running game. They also have a roster with no speed and
for the most part avg athletes which leads to avg.defense.
cardinal stadium the success rate will be under 500. Home run hitting
team like the cards will get beat a lot at home. They can't generate runs
with any type of running game. They also have a roster with no speed and
for the most part avg athletes which leads to avg.defense.
