Holy crap. So much for being blinded Drop.Tine.
Dudes going to prison. A convict just like his mom.
Dudes going to prison. A convict just like his mom.
Eye socket fracture report was B.S.
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There have been many reports in this case that are BS, including the eyewitness account that Brown's buddy gave that said Brown was running away and was hot like a dog. Has anybody else noticed where his body was after he was shot. It was right in the middle of the street. IF he was trying to run away how he did end up in the middle of the street when was shot? If I'm running from a cop with a gun pointed at me I ain't running down the middle of the street, I'm running toward some cover between buildings, cars or behind trees.
Two of the young girls say he was running away, got shot in the arm so he stopped and turned around and was giving up
Not sure why they would lie.
Not sure why they would lie.
I just saw Dr. somebody on TV that says many studies have shown eyewitness accounts are notoriously bad. Former NYPD Commissioner Keric agreed. He said you can have 10 people inside a bank when it's robbed and get 10 different accounts of what happened. It's not that everybody is lying, just that they saw it differently under stress than others who saw the same event. I also saw Brown's cousin on TV tonight and he said all this stuff about Brown stealing cigars is not true and that the video shows he paid for them. I have seen NO video that shows him paying for anything, only one that that shows him taking the cigars and when the guy working there approached him at the door he pushed him away then walked toward him again like he might do more, before he walking out the door. I have no idea how this thing went down but I'll bet when some actual facts are released we'll all know and it may be that cop did everything wrong. I do know that Brown and his friend did the first thing wrong when they didn't obey the officer.
You say that with a slight sense of "gotchya". I don't know anymore than anybody else as far as the "facts" go. The real question is when is the media going to start taking responsibility for their reporting? This is starting to turn into a joke, if it hasn't already.
You're not?
The media picks the first people they can get their hands on to interview as witnesses. While the police have a process. Again, a guy I grew up with is up there every night and he put this on facebook the other day, and thought he nailed it right on the head.
To my non police friends if you are interested....... There is a big difference between the story the media gives you and the facts the police department presents. When a serious incident occurs, the media grabs the first person they see who claims they witnessed the incident and puts this person's account of the incident on television.
This first person's account of the incident is then often taken as fact by the public. The media does not conduct a thorough investigation where they talk to every person in the area and weigh each person's statement against the evidence collected before giving their opinion.
The police departments opinion is displayed in the form of an arrest, or lack of an arrest. Whether or not an arrest is made, all of the evidence the police have collected is given to a prosecutor to see if he/she agrees with the police. The prosecutor decides if he/she agrees or disagrees with the police by issuing formal charges or refusing the case.
When a high profile case is presented to the prosecutor by the police, the prosecutor often utilizes a grand jury to decide if formal charges are warranted. This takes the pressure off of the prosecutor when making a decision which may be questionable or unpopular.
This whole process is made up of checks and balances and takes time to complete. This is why you often see the police refusing to make comments pertaining to a high profile case initially. The media often takes our refusal to release information immediately as suspicious and proceeds to attack our character. Trust me, we do not enjoy the **** sandwiches the media has given us to eat on the Mike Brown incident and their one sided coverage of the resulting riots in Ferguson.
I emailed a black friend of mine who lives nearby. I told him I didn't know what to believe and asked his opinion. He's a college educated black male, 55 yrs old, went to Soldan, and lives 5 miles from Ferguson. His main points.....
It's a classic example of a rush to judgment. The vast majority of protesters are young males with pent up anger from north St. Louis who are living in third world conditions. All the looting, violence, and protesting would stop if the media would leave. The media is flaming the situation by giving the trouble makers the spotlight. The so called "community leaders, Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson" are exploiting the situation to further their agendas. The social media has further exacerbated the situation with lies that the protesters accept as truths that have not been proven. All the facts have not come out. The majority of civil people near Ferguson do not believe that Brown was totally innocent, that an assault on the officer did take place, and the officer was acting in self defense.
His opinion, which I happen to believe as well. Interesting that not all black people in St. Louis believe this was murder.
It's a classic example of a rush to judgment. The vast majority of protesters are young males with pent up anger from north St. Louis who are living in third world conditions. All the looting, violence, and protesting would stop if the media would leave. The media is flaming the situation by giving the trouble makers the spotlight. The so called "community leaders, Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson" are exploiting the situation to further their agendas. The social media has further exacerbated the situation with lies that the protesters accept as truths that have not been proven. All the facts have not come out. The majority of civil people near Ferguson do not believe that Brown was totally innocent, that an assault on the officer did take place, and the officer was acting in self defense.
His opinion, which I happen to believe as well. Interesting that not all black people in St. Louis believe this was murder.
Funny that they can't release information but somehow were able to release the convenience store videotape. They pick and choose
to fit their agenda and play CYA.
Funny how you rail on the government incompetence every week but somehow you believe every word the Ferguson police
has to say. They are a government entity trying to prevent a lawsuit. Again why would these girls lie?
Buckaroo is right about you.
to fit their agenda and play CYA.
Funny how you rail on the government incompetence every week but somehow you believe every word the Ferguson police
has to say. They are a government entity trying to prevent a lawsuit. Again why would these girls lie?
Buckaroo is right about you.
You're pretty much incapable of having an intelligent conversation aren't you? They released the information required by the sunshine law. Just because it wasn't all roses for Brown's case, doesn't mean they get to pick and choose what evidence they get to receive.
I rail on our politicians. I was raised to stand by our law enforcement and servicemen. Yes sir, no sir stuff.
Why would the 12 other witnesses that supposedly are in line with the officers story lie? Why would a police officer who didn't have a blemish on his record ruin his life and career?
I don't know why those girls would lie, I am not sure why his friend lied, but he did. Why was that guy caught on tape telling the account that matches the officers?
I'd expect you to answer the above. Or just acknowledge that none of us know.
This post was edited on 8/22 7:57 AM by Drop.Tine
How do you know there are exactly twelve witnesses who line up with the policeman when that information has not been released?
The same way you knew he had a broken eye socket?
The same way you knew he had a broken eye socket?
What did my last line say?
I'd expect you to answer the above. Or just acknowledge that none of us know.
The facts will come out eventually when they're done gathering evidence. BTW where have you seen that his eye socket wasn't fractured? CNN? The same people that reported it was, indeed fractured. Also just because it wasn't fractured, does that mean he wasn't beaten severely? See how that works?
Anything else?
Nice dodge. You stated 12 witnesses. Are you making up that number or did the police release that information? Buckaroo has you nailed. You preach one thing and live another. Your view is so slanted its not even funny. You support the Ferguson police, the least diverse police force in the St. Louis region with a history of poor relations with African Americans.
Probably to smoke pot.
Want to make any more racial stereotypes? All black people smoke pot right?
Tell me most interesting man in the world, where do YOU think he was going with that?
We all know one of the classic uses for cigars, let's not pretend he wasn't trying to paint Brown as a worse person because he smokes pot.
Have any reasons to doubt an officer? Nope, they are all saints and would never lie or be corrupt.
And before you continue on with your "hate the man" story, I've never been given a ticket or in trouble with the law. I have no personal reason to question things. I also blame both sides on the issue at hand. But please continue to insinuate that I'm still just a high schooler who hates cops because it's the thing to do
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