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Bro, you got a lot of nerve throwing the Trump Republicans statement around after you Biden Democrats voted in the idiot that has done the most overall harm to our country in it's history. And then try to defend him with laughable absurdities. If you're so confident in your beliefs how about doing more than throwing rocks on MoSports and let's debate this on a Facebook live and post it here.
 
Bro, you got a lot of nerve throwing the Trump Republicans statement around after you Biden Democrats voted in the idiot that has done the most overall harm to our country in it's history. And then try to defend him with laughable absurdities. If you're so confident in your beliefs how about doing more than throwing rocks on MoSports and let's debate this on a Facebook live and post it here.
No President in history has harmed this country more than Trump!
 
What is there to debate? Trump took an economy on the upswing from Obama, went against the advice of economists and many conservatives and cut rich people’s taxes which got the economy red hot and led to inflationary pressures at home. They told him that would happen.

Otherwise he did NOTHING he said he would do. But he tried to overthrow a U.S. election. And many in his own party now consider him a pariah.

The wall was not completed and Mexico paid for none of it. He did nothing to healthcare. He didn’t pass anything on infrastructure. He didn’t fix immigration. He derived a total of over a billion in personal revenue from the government in the past 6 years. He made it cool to be openly racist, rude and hateful.

Then he mishandled the pandemic and trashed his one positive. He is the only president in modern history to have a net job loss during his term.

Biden passed infrastructure. Biden passed Medicare negotiating drug prices and capped drug costs for seniors. Biden got us through the pandemic, got money to the middle class raising millions of kids out of poverty and lowered unemployment without making it about himself. He addressed climate change with a modest bill. Passed funding to address youth mental health and enhance background checks. He ended the longest war in US history, passed the CHIPS AND science act and hasn’t embarrassed us on the world stage by kissing dictator’s arses or acting like a d-bag. Biden got people to take action.

Comparing our inflation rate with many other countries world wide who also dealt with the pandemic and economic damage caused by Russia’s invasion shows that our economy is still resilient despite short term issues. Jobs are still aplenty and the supply chain issues are mostly gone. At my local station the gas prices have suddenly dropped 28 cents a gallon AFTER the election.
 
What is there to debate? Trump took an economy on the upswing from Obama, went against the advice of economists and many conservatives and cut rich people’s taxes which got the economy red hot and led to inflationary pressures at home. They told him that would happen.

Otherwise he did NOTHING he said he would do. But he tried to overthrow a U.S. election. And many in his own party now consider him a pariah.

The wall was not completed and Mexico paid for none of it. He did nothing to healthcare. He didn’t pass anything on infrastructure. He didn’t fix immigration. He derived a total of over a billion in personal revenue from the government in the past 6 years. He made it cool to be openly racist, rude and hateful.

Then he mishandled the pandemic and trashed his one positive. He is the only president in modern history to have a net job loss during his term.

Biden passed infrastructure. Biden passed Medicare negotiating drug prices and capped drug costs for seniors. Biden got us through the pandemic, got money to the middle class raising millions of kids out of poverty and lowered unemployment without making it about himself. He addressed climate change with a modest bill. Passed funding to address youth mental health and enhance background checks. He ended the longest war in US history, passed the CHIPS AND science act and hasn’t embarrassed us on the world stage by kissing dictator’s arses or acting like a d-bag. Biden got people to take action.

Comparing our inflation rate with many other countries world wide who also dealt with the pandemic and economic damage caused by Russia’s invasion shows that our economy is still resilient despite short term issues. Jobs are still aplenty and the supply chain issues are mostly gone. At my local station the gas prices have suddenly dropped 28 cents a gallon AFTER the election.
I love how you give credit to Obama for The Economy.... pure BS he get's some and Trump get's more ... Trump also passed Tax hikes for the Wealthy and Brought Tax breaks for the Middle class.... HIkes/Breaks that Biden let expire.

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance...enefited-middle-working-class-americans-most/



He didn't mishandle C19 anymore than Biden...... I mean in the same Time Frame Biden and the Dem's allowed More Deaths and Trump handed them a Warp Speed Working Vax How did the Dem and Biden Bumble that? And the Pandemic is over? Really might want to look into that as opposed to Believing Biden's bumbling statement, if so then why do they want you to get a 3rd booster?


He didn't address Climate Change at all he just gave away near 500 billion in BS Tax Breaks and Subsides to the elites.

Wait.... he ended the Afghan War? What that withdraw was already in action under the Trump administration and he Blew the Withdrawal in a huge way. Get the record strait. Trump negotiated the Withdrawal in Feb. of 2020.... Biden's boys blew that.

And then Biden got us quickly into another bigger Boondoggle with Russia!!!

Biden passed a Grift Bill claiming to be about Infrastructure ...... I've broke down the Pork in the bill before it's a easy find, you can't claim victory on that nothing is better than a wasteful shell game of a bill I guess.

Biden has embarrassed the U.S. as much as Trump because he is a senile old man who wanders around on stage and clearly isn't in control of the Executive Branch.





You might want to rethink your Supply chain Issues are gone or getting better..... Claiming they are over because of your small sample size and a drop in Gas is clearly just anecdotal evidence that means nothing.



And Gas nation wide as of 3 days ago is down a Whopping 3 cents!!


And you claimed he got millions out of Poverty very short term band-aid it appears and interesting interpretation of the Data...3.7 million more kids in poverty now than in past..



And while Trump is a Arrogant low character Dbag.... that we can agree on. You are spewing more of your biased view point by saying he made it Cool to be Racist Rude and hateful. It's the Dem's who call everyone not in their Cult Nazi, Racist, homophobes and xenophobes. Just because your for Closed boarders and controlled immigration doesn't make you a racist xenophobe. Just because you don't want Teachers broaching the subject of sexuality at a young age in the classroom doesn't make you a homophobe.

Clearly this is toots type of person and mindset....sad. Clearly supporting Trump is a unforgivable sin and makes you a racist and all the other ism and ist's full of hate... The Democratic party and the rank and file has dove off the deep end.


And you can't soft sale inflation to anyone with a functioning brain...

 
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How has Trump harmed the country? Really? The list is very long.

I’ll give you one example. Thousands of naive people in Arizona really believe they lost the Governor and Senate races because they were stolen. Trump and his election deniers have led us to this. Our core values are being damaged. This is in no way good for our nation.
 
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If you can't see that I can't help you. All his hand picked candidates and worshipers think every election they don't win is rigged. Thankfully most of them did NOT win in the state AG's and Governor's jobs. His voters will all say they were rigged against his candidates.
 
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How has Trump harmed the country? Really? The list is very long.

I’ll give you one example. Thousands of naive people in Arizona really believe they lost the Governor and Senate races because they were stolen. Trump and his election deniers have led us to this. Our core values are being damaged. This is in no way good for our nation.
Seriously???? If this is decisive then bring the Hillary Democrats into the same convo. Also, include Biden's decisive speech about how "MAGA Republicans are a danger that threatens the very foundations of our republic". How is this statement not equal to anything Trump said?
I don't mind calling out decisiveness but do it all around.
 
You obviously don’t. CNN was predicting the “red wave” and kissing more GOP arse than big pharma. Like you, they got a lot wrong.
Show me one place I predicted a Red Wave? I got nothing wrong because I know the strength of the liberal media to brainwash the masses.
 
I love how you give credit to Obama for The Economy.... pure BS he get's some and Trump get's more ... Trump also passed Tax hikes for the Wealthy and Brought Tax breaks for the Middle class.... HIkes/Breaks that Biden let

Lol. They don't want facts. They just want to throw nonsense statements in the attempt to cloud the facts. They're more focused of Trump's ignorant tweets over his policies. Then they, laughably, try to tell us Biden isn't at fault for the damage his policies have done. Unreal.
 
Seriously???? If this is decisive then bring the Hillary Democrats into the same convo. Also, include Biden's decisive speech about how "MAGA Republicans are a danger that threatens the very foundations of our republic". How is this statement not equal to anything Trump said?
I don't mind calling out decisiveness but do it all around.
Did Biden invite a mob to the capitol when the election was already over and send them marching to try to stop Mike Pence? Are you that clueless?. Biden was responding to an attack on our capitol. Trump was simply being the worst sore loser in our history and cheering on an attack of our nation.
 
Yeah, keep watching CNN. If you're so sure of this, then you don't mind bringing your evidence in a live discussion.
I can't help you if you haven't figured out he has thrown doubt into every election for the next 20 years by any pub that loses.
 
What? Before the Dem driven Covid over reaction the economy was incredible. Trump, on his worst day, was better than what we have now.
 
What? I'm trying to remember which president has called a significant segment of the American population terrorists? Or which one tried to get people fired for not taking the jab? BTW is COVID still a thang? Come on man!
 
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What? I'm trying to remember which president has called a significant segment of the American population terrorists? Or which one tried to get people fired for not taking the jab? Come on man!
Jesus would have taken the jab and he would have worn a mask without being a selfish crybaby.
 
How has Trump harmed the country? Really? The list is very long.

I’ll give you one example. Thousands of naive people in Arizona really believe they lost the Governor and Senate races because they were stolen. Trump and his election deniers have led us to this. Our core values are being damaged. This is in no way good for our nation.
So did Hillary Damage the Country First when she claimed that election was Stolen? Trump is not above taking someone else's idea and making it his own. He will go to great lengths to win




I think it's a hoot that you actually all believe that Trump has convinced and bamboozled the Rep. Party into believing Democrats are corrupt....... a lot Rep. always believed that from the Days of Kennedy. What Trump has done is made it OK for GOP to mimic and parrot the same rhetoric as their Dem. counter parts. For 50 years Dem's have demeaned and degraded Conservatives as uneducated racists and bigots. Now the playing field as changed as Conservatives have decided that they want to play the game with the same tools.

I mean you guys still Cling to the Russian Hoax narrative which is...... that Trump Colluded with the Russians to STEAL THE ELECTION is it any surprise that a guy like Trump isn't going to turn the tables and weaponize that as well!!! To his benefit.

Funny You don't even see they hypocrisy at all or you choose to ignore it. The Dem's try to make Trump a illegitimate President while in office but then you get Mad because Trump Copy Cats Hillary and claims the Election was stolen after he loses.
 
Jesus would have taken the jab and he would have worn a mask without being a selfish crybaby.
OH so a devout atheist knows what Jesus would of done?? So you really think that Jesus would want to oppress and take away the Free Will of another human being and Soul? I've not read anywhere in the Bible where Jesus preached a Fascist authoritarian message and was heck bent on bending others to his religious will.

Again I'm not saying the Bible was literal.... but even a cliff note reading of the New Testament doesn't support your statement at ALL.



The fact that you would use another persons belief as a weapon to get in some snarky comment really is a widow into what type of person you are.


Which is pretty obvious from the bulk of your postings on this board. If a person doesn't adhere to the World of Toots he is a Selfish Uneducated Crybaby who needs to be forced to submit to the Will of his Over Lords and his shared World Vision.
 
The "Russian Hoax" is a lame attempt to dismiss the unethical way the Trump campaign acted.
Did Russian intelligence hack the DNC and the Clinton campaign? Yes
Did Trump publicly ask Russia to find her 30,000 emails? Yes
Did Trump's team have meetings with Russians with the intent to receive information on Clinton? Yes
Were there other meetings besides the Trump Tower meeting? Yes
By April 19, 2019, The New York Times had documented that "Donald J. Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries, during the 2016 campaign and presidential transition."
Where there is smoke there is fire. Is there a lot of smoke in there?
You can either conclude that all of those meetings did not ever lead to any information being shared, because no one was able to find a paper trail of that, and all of those interactions were just about things other than the election. Or you can conclude that there was some coordination between all parties.

What should be separate from the "Russian Hoax."
Did democrats claim that Trump was an illegitimate president in 2016? Yes
Why?
Was there interference in the election of 2016 from the Russians? Yes, Russian bots posted disinformation on Twitter and Facebook.
Was it coordinated with the Trump campaign? That depends on where you stand on the smoke vs. fire of the "Russian Hoax."
Did the FBI open and announce an investigation into Clinton a week before the election that swung votes? Yes
Did Clinton have around 3 million more votes than Trump, but not gain enough electoral votes because of the electoral college? Yes
All of this gets lumped into the "Russian Hoax," so they can say that Clinton didn't accept the election results.
Did any high democratic leader (not some crazy on youtube in a state representative race or something similar) claim that the election mechanism was faked? No
Did they claim the election was stolen? No
The difference between the Democrats in 2016 and the Republicans in 2020 is like saying.
Would be like the Democrats claiming that the New England Patriots are not the Super Bowl champions of the 2014-2015 season, because of deflate-gate, or a bad call in the game like saying the interception at the goal line was pass interference. The electoral college complaint would be like saying that the Seahawks should have won because they had more total yards than the Patriots. True that looks better, but it isn't the metric we use to determine winners and losers.
The Trump Republican argument is like saying that the Seahawks won the Superbowl because the referees miscounted the points and that the Seahawks actually had 31 points so they are the winner and claiming that the Patriots messed with the scoreboard. Then tearing up the University of Phoenix stadium to prevent the Lombardi trophy ceremony from starting.
 
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Trump International for years was in direct contact with Russian officials trying to negotiate a deal to finance and build a Trump Hotel complex in Moscow. It would be ludicrous to think they all didn't have direct contacts and meetings with Russian bankers and officials. Trump is an international businessman, he has contact with people all over the world I would thi
Working on a campaign is not the same as working for the Trump organization. Stone, Manafort and several of the others were working to get him elected, not close business deals. If you are running for POTUS you have no business kissing Russian arse. Pretty simple concept.
 
Isn't it pretty well documented that the Clinton campaign actively solicitated dirt on Trump from Russian sources?? I would really think if anyone had "golden shower" video implicating Trump it would be all over the internet. People still talking about that like it's fact
No
 
The "Russian Hoax" is a lame attempt to dismiss the unethical way the Trump campaign acted.
Did Russian intelligence hack the DNC and the Clinton campaign? Yes
Did Trump publicly ask Russia to find her 30,000 emails? Yes
Did Trump's team have meetings with Russians with the intent to receive information on Clinton? Yes
Were there other meetings besides the Trump Tower meeting? Yes
By April 19, 2019, The New York Times had documented that "Donald J. Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries, during the 2016 campaign and presidential transition."
Where there is smoke there is fire. Is there a lot of smoke in there?
You can either conclude that all of those meetings did not ever lead to any information being shared, because no one was able to find a paper trail of that, and all of those interactions were just about things other than the election. Or you can conclude that there was some coordination between all parties.

What should be separate from the "Russian Hoax."
Did democrats claim that Trump was an illegitimate president in 2016? Yes
Why?
Was there interference in the election of 2016 from the Russians? Yes, Russian bots posted disinformation on Twitter and Facebook.
Was it coordinated with the Trump campaign? That depends on where you stand on the smoke vs. fire of the "Russian Hoax."
Did the FBI open and announce an investigation into Clinton a week before the election that swung votes? Yes
Did Clinton have around 3 million more votes than Trump, but not gain enough electoral votes because of the electoral college? Yes
All of this gets lumped into the "Russian Hoax," so they can say that Clinton didn't accept the election results.
Did any high democratic leader (not some crazy on youtube in a state representative race or something similar) claim that the election mechanism was faked? No
Did they claim the election was stolen? No
The difference between the Democrats in 2016 and the Republicans in 2020 is like saying.
Would be like the Democrats claiming that the New England Patriots are not the Super Bowl champions of the 2014-2015 season, because of deflate-gate, or a bad call in the game like saying the interception at the goal line was pass interference. The electoral college complaint would be like saying that the Seahawks should have won because they had more total yards than the Patriots. True that looks better, but it isn't the metric we use to determine winners and losers.
The Trump Republican argument is like saying that the Seahawks won the Superbowl because the referees miscounted the points and that the Seahawks actually had 31 points so they are the winner and claiming that the Patriots messed with the scoreboard. Then tearing up the University of Phoenix stadium to prevent the Lombardi trophy ceremony from starting.
NyTime's article is inconclusive and devoid of actual evidence.... as was the 43 million dollar Mueller investigation.

Hillary and other Dem's literally stated the Russian Hoax tainted the election and Trump was behind the Russian Taint and a Operative.

How you see a major difference between Trump claiming that Ballot harvesting and last minute Rule Changes on those issues was fraudulent and lead to his defeat is really splitting hairs. You are working really hard to make Trumps Actions Seem worse than Clintons and the Dem's. It's all the same pure politics to maintain or gain power. I guess it's understandable though because if you read Politico/NYT( I Do just to see how slanted they are) and not come away realizing they mostly print pure half truth propaganda then I can see how you see one incident as worse than the other.

As you may notice I mostly defend my points with the Half Truths from Left Leaning sites(NBC/Politico/Atlantic) and a Dose of the NYP on occasion which does have a pretty good investigation wing if you research it.

What I think is funny is that as We speak Hillary Clinton is Voicing that Trump was a illegal President and that Rep's are planning on Stealing the 2024 Election.... but of course since Biden won in 2020 that election was legit. LOL Come on the hypocrisy is mind blowing.



 
Working on a campaign is not the same as working for the Trump organization. Stone, Manafort and several of the others were working to get him elected, not close business deals. If you are running for POTUS you have no business kissing Russian arse. Pretty simple concept.
You keep saying Trump kissed Russia arse....

But he enacted 52 sanctions against Russia..... Even President Obama Secretary of Defense Robert Gates Said it was True that President Trumps Administration had been the Hardest on Russia.

Trump with drew from the INF because of Russian Actions .

Trump placed Sanctions on the Nord2 pipeline and repeatedly warned Germany and other Euro nations about the Danger of getting in Bed with the Russians.

He even approved the sale of lethal weapons to the Ukraine... Obama didn't do that.

Trump ordered Missiles fired at Syria/Russian Military sites...

He expelled 60 Russian Diplomats and Trump leveled sanctions on Several Russian Elites as well.

I'm not sure why you confuse Trumps political rhetoric with Putin as kissing arse when his actions where just the opposite.
 
Well while no fire..... Just like the Russian hoax there is a lot of Smoke..

The Clintons Via a law Firm did seek Dirt on Trump. The FBI did use the Fake Steel Dossier to start spying on Trump associates, Steel gave the FBI information written by Clinton operatives and Associates this is Per the Wash. Post.

Does this all seem vaguely familiar..... Seems similar to the Russian Collusion Shouted and Trumpeted by the Main Stream Media and the Democratic party for all of Trumps 4 years in office.
 
List of Clinton, Obama, and Biden staffers who met with Russians during their presidential campaigns:

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I don't care about Trump running his mouth off he does that in his Sleep I'm sure. He has zero filter. And doesn't think before he opens his big ole Mouth.

I listed all the punitive actions he Signed off on that Hamstrung Russia....and it was Plenty and even Obama staffer had to admit he was harder on Russian than the Presidents before him.

How About you List the Things that Obama or Clinton did to Russia. Oh wait they just sent weak willed career politicians like John Kerry to fail. But darn they never said a Positive word about Putin... So dem's see that as a WIN! The sheeple oh so easily manipulated.

Words are Just worlds that is the problem to many people get caught up when they here a bunch of Political rhetoric and have then they have the desired emotional responses those in power want..... As opposed to looking at the Actions and Policies that are being taken. And ignore all the Hub bub nonsense.
 
So actual policy to effect change is a form of Manipulation? That is a real interesting mental deduction.... I tend to think BS rhetoric to bamboozle the masses and then doing just the opposite of that rhetoric is being manipulated.
 
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