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Donald Trump voters, hear me out

Dr.Jekyll

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By Thomas L. Friedman

New York Times News Service

This is my last column until after the election, so I’d like to address the people least likely to read it: Donald Trump voters. Who knows? Maybe I’ll get lucky and a few of them will buy fish wrapped in this column, and they’ll accidentally peruse it! Desperate times call for desperate measures.

While I’ve opposed the Trump candidacy from the start, I’ve never disparaged Trump voters. Some are friends and neighbors; they’re all fellow Americans. We should take their concerns seriously. But we should also demand that they be serious, that they draw distinctions between these two presidential candidates.

Yes, Hillary Clinton is a flawed leader — but in the way so many presidents were. We know her flaws: She has a weakness for secrecy, occasionally fudges truths, has fawning aides and has a husband who lacks discipline when it comes to moneymaking and women. But she is not indecent, and that is an important distinction. And she’s studious, has sought out people of substance on every issue and has taken the job of running for president seriously.

Trump is not only a flawed politician, he’s an indecent human being. He’s boasted of assaulting women — prompting 11 to come forward to testify that he did just that to them; his defense is that he could not have assaulted these women because they weren’t pretty enough.

He’s created a university that was charged with defrauding its students. He’s refused to disclose his tax returns.

At the same time, Trump has shown no ability to talk about any policy issue with any depth. Harlan Coben’s debate-night tweet last month had it right: “On Aleppo he sounds like a fifth-grader giving a book report on a book he never read.”

I understand why many Trump supporters have lost faith in Washington and want to just “shake things up.” But when you shake things up, guided by one-liners and no moral compass, you can cause enormous instability and systemic vertigo.

But there is an even more important reason that Trump supporters, particularly less-educated white males, should be wary of his bluster: His policies won’t help them. Trump promises to bring their jobs back. But most of their jobs didn’t go to a Mexican. They went to a microchip.

The idea that large numbers of manual factory jobs can be returned to America if we put up a wall with Mexico or renegotiate our trade deals is a fantasy. Trump ignores the fact that manufacturing is still by far the largest sector of the U.S. economy. Indeed, our factories now produce twice what they did in 1984 — but with one-third fewer workers.

Trump can’t change that. Machines and software will keep devouring, and spawning, more work of all kinds.

No one knows for certain how we deal with this new race with and against machines, but I can assure you it’s not Trump’s way — build walls, restrict trade, give huge tax cuts to the rich.

The smartest thing we can do now is to keep our economy as open and flexible as possible — to get the change signals first and be able to quickly adapt; create the opportunity for every American to engage in lifelong learning, because whatever jobs emerge will require more knowledge; make sure that learning stresses as much of the humanities and human interactive skills as hard sciences; make sure we have an immigration policy that continues to attract the world’s most imaginative risk-takers; and strengthen our safety nets.

This is the only true path to American greatness in the 21st century. Trump wants to make America great in ways that are just not available anymore. “What do we have to lose” by trying his way? Trump asks. The answer is: everything that actually makes us great. When the world gets this fast, small errors in navigation have huge consequences.

While Clinton has failed to inspire, her instincts and ideas will keep us hewing to basically the right course. And however great her flaws, she is still in the zone of human decency. Trump is not.

We can never be great as a country with a president with the warped values of Donald Trump. I pray that in the end at least some Trump voters, my fellow Americans, will see that.


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/o...olumnists/article112197727.html#storylink=cpy
 
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I only wished you had comprehended the article, but your choice is your right and I respect it. I choose to cancel your vote.
 
I'm convinced there are only one or two msgboarders who are actually voting for Hillary. They have every right to be naive and/or stubbornly partisan.

Most are voting either against Trump or against Hillary. I am voting against both.

If you are voting for Trump because you always vote republican or you believe he will make a fine leader and president, there is something wrong with your brain.
 
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I'm convinced there are only one or two msgboarders who are actually voting for Hillary. They have every right to be naive and/or stubbornly partisan.

Most are voting either against Trump or against Hillary. I am voting against both.

If you are voting for Trump because you always vote republican or you believe he will make a fine leader and president, there is something wrong with your brain.
I'm probably more against Trump than for Hillary.
 
I'm probably more against Trump than for Hillary.
Read the book "Scorched Earth" Restoring the country after Obama by Michael Savage. Tells you what we are facing today in this country. If you can read this and still feel the same way, then there is something wrong with your brain! But then what do I know, I'm just an uneducated deplorable. LOL
 
Read the book "Scorched Earth" Restoring the country after Obama by Michael Savage. Tells you what we are facing today in this country. If you can read this and still feel the same way, then there is something wrong with your brain! But then what do I know, I'm just an uneducated deplorable. LOL
At least you're honest.
 
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Read the book "Scorched Earth" Restoring the country after Obama by Michael Savage. Tells you what we are facing today in this country. If you can read this and still feel the same way, then there is something wrong with your brain! But then what do I know, I'm just an uneducated deplorable. LOL

I have no problem with anyone who is specifically voting against Clinton.
 
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Read the book "Scorched Earth" Restoring the country after Obama by Michael Savage. Tells you what we are facing today in this country. If you can read this and still feel the same way, then there is something wrong with your brain! But then what do I know, I'm just an uneducated deplorable. LOL
Savage is a crazy person, no thanks.

We have a lot to work on but the country is in a better place than it was in eight years ago.
 
Savage is a crazy person, no thanks.

We have a lot to work on but the country is in a better place than it was in eight years ago.
Where do you live?????? We surly can't be in the same country. Ever hear of Tom Pendergast? That is what we have in Washington today. Massive Corruption within the political arena including the Department of Justice. Pay for play selling out of America. Just wait until January when Obama Care raises 27% or more, co-pays go up, out of pocket cost goes up. Yeah most have insurance but unless your getting it for free, most cannot afford to use it. How can you call this better? How can you call someone that does not know what bathroom to use better? How can you even consider full term abortion ok? Our constitution is under attack, our freedoms are under attack, and our Country is under attack and with Hillary it gets no better!
 
You need to have some introspection about what the world was like 8 years ago vs. now. It's very clearly better for the average person. We were in an economic collapse on Nov. 4, 2008.

I agree that the biggest problem in America is that our government has served the rich more than the middle class. I agree Clinton is a little too cozy with the rich.

The idea that Trump is going to do a better job dealing with that is nonsense, though. It's a con. He doesn't care about you.

The #1 thing the Trump administration would do is lower taxes on rich people. Trump's pocketbook wins if he is elected - not yours.
 
You need to have some introspection about what the world was like 8 years ago vs. now. It's very clearly better for the average person. We were in an economic collapse on Nov. 4, 2008.

I agree that the biggest problem in America is that our government has served the rich more than the middle class. I agree Clinton is a little too cozy with the rich.

The idea that Trump is going to do a better job dealing with that is nonsense, though. It's a con. He doesn't care about you.

The #1 thing the Trump administration would do is lower taxes on rich people. Trump's pocketbook wins if he is elected - not yours.

Economic collapse would have stopped whoever we elected then. It would have recovered more if it had not been prevented from fully correcting.

A LITTLE? She will do anything for anyone........if they line her pockets.

He has nothing to gain by running. ANY Republican would cut taxes. Any other Republican had a better chance against Hillary. With all of Trumps glaring flaws, he believes what he is proposing is best for the country and does want to turn things back towards the little guy doing better because THAT benefits him.
 
Voting for Trump so that evil skank doesnt
When nasty name calling is attached to a reason for voting all I can say is welcome to the basket of deplorables. Now follow in the footsteps of the great truth teller and be as nasty and negative as you can be. Skank vs p@$$y grabber. (lol)
 
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Savage is a crazy person, no thanks.

Interesting how you write off Mr Savage as an uneducated deplorable.

With a Bachelors of Arts, Science and PhD :oops:I believe he would be the one that would need to talk down to you.

Typical liberal Sun Worshipper, can dish it out but can not back it up ...
 
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