Does Heaven have a wall?
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The drawings I’ve seen the pearly gates are attached to a fence. I haven’t seen any $5.7 billion (first instalment), steel slats. Maybe if God promises Mexico will pay for it ... oh, wait. In some minds, god did promise that, lol.
Man this is why atheists should not try to use the bible for their own personal gain, they have never studied it and don't know it.
Heaven Has a Wall
Revelation 21:12-13 (KJB) And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: 13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
To some people, walls and borders seem inclusive or inhibiting, are shuttered, or enclose around them tightly.
Please take note that when the Apostle John described the New Jerusalem it even has a wall or border about it and included many gates. This heavenly wall is not just any ordinary wall but one that is described in the verse above as great and high with available many openings.
Sometimes it is necessary to have outer boundaries. Boundaries do not necessarily mean one is shut in, inclusive, unfriendly, or without an escape. Borders can be for protection and order in life. There were many borders or walls mentioned in God’s Word for a variety of purposes and reasons.
Nehemiah built a wall.
There were walls and gates found standing around many cities and palaces in ancient biblical times. Two great examples of walls including that which enclosed the city of Jericho and that around Jerusalem.
God told the Israelites about great nations with great high walls reaching to heaven:
Deuteronomy 9:1 (KJB) Hear, O Israel: Thou art to pass over Jordan this day, to go in to possess nations greater and mightier than thyself, cities great and fenced up to heaven.
There was a wall around the first and second temple.
Shepherds keep their sheep inside walls or a sheepfold at night. Those who dared to climb over the sides of the sheepfold were wolves who were after sheep. They were considered thieves and robbers.
Whether it be erected in our life, or in the area surrounding us, a wall is built for separation and protection. Fences and walls can serve many godly purposes.
Even God found it necessary to a have a massive towering wall surrounding His heavenly city. We will not know until we get there exactly what purposes God’s eternal wall serves. We could speculate on the reasons it will be constructed, but we know it will perfectly and flawlessly fit His will.
So you say you’re using a fairy tale to make a political point?
LOL, so when he said there were no walls in heaven this is a great aurgument you post it on here because you think hey this will bolster my side. Then I bring out scripture that says yes there are walls in heaven all of a sudden it is a fairy tale. Duck you are basically what is wrong with America, you see something in the news or a tweet and go yep that is a good point I think I will believe that going forward. Can you not think for yourself, can you not look at all the facts to form your own opinion.
The concept of not sharing planet earth with all of god's creatures is A-ok with Jesus?
Cutting off food stamps because you dont want a poor person to have nutrition is A-Ok with Jesus? Tear gassing children is christian? Do you really think heaven is a physical location that could have a wall?
The walls of heaven are intended to keep innocent people out? Do you think about how silly your posts are?
Come on man.
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"Duck_walk, post: 341945, member: 904"]The concept of not sharing planet earth with all of god's creatures is A-ok with Jesus?
Cutting off food stamps because you dont want a poor person to have nutrition is A-Ok with Jesus? Tear gassing children is christian? Do you really think heaven is a physical location that could have a wall?
The walls of heaven are intended to keep innocent people out? Do you think about how silly your posts are?
Come on man.[/QUOTE]
This post is nonsensical and without merit. Changing the subject doesn't help. You cannot rebuke bullit and his post and this rudimentary attempt is laughable. I feel sorry for you little man with ugly hat.
On a side note, when the dem shutdown does end, those poor government workers will receive all their back pay, and once again be on the public dole. All is well.
Cutting off food stamps because you dont want a poor person to have nutrition is A-Ok with Jesus? Tear gassing children is christian? Do you really think heaven is a physical location that could have a wall?
The walls of heaven are intended to keep innocent people out? Do you think about how silly your posts are?
Come on man.[/QUOTE]
This post is nonsensical and without merit. Changing the subject doesn't help. You cannot rebuke bullit and his post and this rudimentary attempt is laughable. I feel sorry for you little man with ugly hat.
On a side note, when the dem shutdown does end, those poor government workers will receive all their back pay, and once again be on the public dole. All is well.
I leave my keys in my car. I dont have a fence around my yard. I have a lock, but I have had strangers knock on my door and ask for help and I obliged.
Did you even read the article I posted?
You just assumed the author said all walls are bad and there werent walls in heaven.
Try reading instead of wasting my time with your novels.
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So you are saying there is a process by which people get help from you, like asking for it and you vetting them....hmmm. Why do you have a lock on your house? If you can’t see the inconsistency, then okay.
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We dont have a crisis at the border.
If you want to build a monstrous
40 billion dollar wall down there that
wont stop the drug or crime problem
then you will need to start a third political party because the Dems dont want it. The repubs had two years to fund it so they OBVIOUSLY dont want it. But keep being a drama queen. It makes for good reality TV.
Remember that time when you had lost a pretty significant point due to logic and so you moved the goalposts? Me too.
I don't know that they don't want it, I think for most yes even democrats believe it would help, but we need to be able to pay for it first. You purchase what you can afford and right now we cannot afford this. But I think we can afford more fencing whatever you want to call it along with more border agents. We need to secure or border but we cannot afford to spend to build this wall. Trump has proven he loves to spend beyond his means, his multi bankruptcy prove that. He doesn't have either enough sense or understanding of government funding to realize that. And he get's rid of anybody who tries to explain how this all works. So I don't know how this will all end.
Duck and that is all good, but what happens if those people who knock on your door tells people hey this man will help you he has tons of money. So next thing you know people after people are knocking on your door for help. Eventually you would have to turn them away. Now you are turning them away but they have been told you have money so they start to break into your home because they have heard all these stories of the Great riches of Duckland. What do you do, you probable increase security, build a fence. That is all those in America is trying to do.
Just saw a piece on the elaborate tunnels 70 FEET under the ground. Isn’t that 55 feet deeper than Trump’s dream? How much more will that cost? How much more in debt will we go for this ridiculous thing? Does he even care?
The Democratic Party lecturing about running a deficit....hahaha. However, I do hate that we are running one. Balance. The. Budget.
This is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too easy....
The last few years of Bill Clinton's presidency, a Democrat by the way, saw the United States federal government having the first budget surplus since 1969, with at least $184 billion by January 2000. This was eliminated by tax cuts initiated by his successor George W. Bush. Now apologize ydkm
You’re right, Ducky. I should be ashamed of myself for throwing in a fact. Tsk, tsk. For shame!
This post is nonsensical and without merit. Changing the subject doesn't help. You cannot rebuke bullit and his post and this rudimentary attempt is laughable. I feel sorry for you little man with ugly hat.
On a side note, when the dem shutdown does end, those poor government workers will receive all their back pay, and once again be on the public dole. All is well.[/QUOTE]
The public dole???? Maybe you would like to trade jobs with some of them since their's must all be very high paying and easy to do. The back pay will be nice when it comes, but only if they didn't lose their house or car in the mean time. Maybe everybody involved will come to their senses soon.
The public dole???? Maybe you would like to trade jobs with some of them since their's must all be very high paying and easy to do. The back pay will be nice when it comes, but only if they didn't lose their house or car in the mean time. Maybe everybody involved will come to their senses soon.[/QUOTE]
Your position has merit, 3R
The public dole???? Maybe you would like to trade jobs with some of them since their's must all be very high paying and easy to do. The back pay will be nice when it comes, but only if they didn't lose their house or car in the mean time. Maybe everybody involved will come to their senses soon.[/QUOTE]
How did this post get to be under my name? Anybody that has ben on here any length of time know that ain't the way I write anything on here.I'm not sure I have ever used the word nonsensical in speaking or trying in my life! The last few are all mixed up as to who they should be attributed to.
I'm sorry, but you dont get to play this both ways, you cant call the Bible a fairy tale and two posts later try to invoke WWJD.
Really Dan. In my opinion you cant call yourself a Christian and support any of Donald Trump's policies.
You can also learn important lessons about how to live your life by completely made up stories. Ever heard about George Washington and the cherry tree he never cut down? Fyi. I can do whatever the hell I want. If you profess to be a godly person and support Trump, you are the ultimate hypocrite. Not me.
I support American sovereignty and do believe we need to do more to secure our southern AND northern borders. I wouldn't call myself a Trump supporter, would have rather had Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, or Jeb Bush, but I would call myself conservative.
And yes, you can do whatever you want, no one will take you seriously though.
If you are new to this side of MoSports, you will soon see Duck says whatever fits his narrative whether it's the Bible, news reports, quotes, twitter, or his opinion. He will never admit you have that same right and will dismiss you and claim to put you on ignore as if it were punishment.
Saying things like you are a blind Trump supporter whether true or not is thought to be a weapon when it simply is inaccurate.
Libs always claim to want peace and tolerance. They want you to peacefully tolerate their lack of peace and tolerance.
No.
They reflect the liberals in politics. They distort what you say and claim you want and support tings you don't to make you look unreasonable. The same things are done whether on here or in the political news and legislature.
If you truly want honest debate and discussion on serious matters, you are in the wrong place.
If Tulsi Gabbard will stick to her principals instead of kowtowing to the extremists in her party, she's as close to the middle as we've seen in a while.
You and I would define middle in a way that would not be called middle by most.
Just because people hate Trump (including me) doesn't mean his plans and initiatives are bad. Most of his ideas have been widely accepted in the past. I say that to say, winning the party war is more important to most than getting their issues solved.
Just because people hate Trump (including me) doesn't mean his plans and initiatives are bad. Most of his ideas have been widely accepted in the past. I say that to say, winning the party war is more important to most than getting their issues solved.
No leaders in govt. Only followers..following money
