District Points????
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The strength of schedule formula needs at least two weeks before you get points.
I see the scores from Friday night but no district points when you go to that page?? Unless I am doing something wrong like usual
wait until week 2. Give time for MSHSSA to get the kinks out of their system and for the SOS calc to be a bit more accurate. If it is not there and correct after week 2 games then something is defnitely wrong with MSHSAA.
I see they have points from win, loss and point spreads. But without the strength of schedule points added in.
That cant happen until week 2. Your opponent has not played anyone else, so there is no strength of schedule
Should Districts be Seeded by Win/Loss , Points, or by coaches? Look how stack these 4 Districts are, anyone know anymore districts looks like this!!!
There is so many reasons why this is correct and why to change it would be wrong.
1) SOS / Playing Up - Just because you challenge your team and play tougher competition. Playing up, you should be given additional points from that.
2) Yes, it should be wins and losses but at the same time MSHSAA has a fail safe if that happens to be the case when it comes to head to head records with the 1/1 switch on seeds based up on beating the the higher point seed which is directly above you.
3) Winning convincingly: You get additional points if you consistently beat your oppenents convincingly. That makes sense to award convincing winners over teams that just won a game who happened to have the ball last.
playing up means diddly squat. Tipton might come in here and whip adrian.
Should they be rewarded for playing clinton and sherwood instead?
Your asking the wrong questions. Should a school not be rewarded for playing a schedule full of powerhouse programs no matter the class. Or shoud a program be punished for loosing to several powerhouse programs because they were put on their schedule. When you put all of this together you are closer to getting placed in the proper placement of where you stand in a well rounded picture.
Is there going to be some smaller instances where the worse team is going to be given the higher seed, possibly. But no matter how you do it your going to have someone upset. That is human nature to whine and complain if they don't get their way. So what they can do is make it fair. They have.
Go to a full on sagarin type model. Why should ruskin be worth more points than EB?
MSHSAA , of course, can mess up an anvil in a sand pile so there's that.
You’re right. Winning and losing actual games should never be the first criteria
Not when people have a variety of different strengths of schedule. If everyone played everyone in the same district and things were even then it would make sense.
That’s why it should be a tie breaker. A point system that “maybe” gets it right.
Especially when playing up a class carries way more weight than SOS. Look at class 3 district 4. No one will pass Moberly simply because they play 2 class 4 teams to end the season.
I have no issues with the point system except playing up. Most of the bigger schools in their respective conferences doesn’t plays up except for Non-Conference games. look at Hannibal, Warrenton, Nevada, Savannah, and Centralia. these 5 teams are the top enrollment schools in their conference.
Hannibal (6-1) and Warrenton ( 7-0) will finish 3rd and 4th behind Holt and Parkway North. Holt will likely finish (6-3) and Parkway North will likely finish (7-2). Both Holt and Parkway North plays up all 9 regular season games, Hannibal only plays up 3 Non-Conference (Helias, Troy, Battle) and Warrenton plays up 2 (Washington, Ft Zumwalt South). On Paper Hannibal is the best team in District 4 Class 4 with Aneyas. Warrenton is at least 3rd or 4th best team in that district. This also goes for Nevada and Centralia district. I am not complaining about Hannibal being screw over the #1 Seed. This will help Hannibal with home advantage in the Quarterfinals!
Hannibal (6-1) and Warrenton ( 7-0) will finish 3rd and 4th behind Holt and Parkway North. Holt will likely finish (6-3) and Parkway North will likely finish (7-2). Both Holt and Parkway North plays up all 9 regular season games, Hannibal only plays up 3 Non-Conference (Helias, Troy, Battle) and Warrenton plays up 2 (Washington, Ft Zumwalt South). On Paper Hannibal is the best team in District 4 Class 4 with Aneyas. Warrenton is at least 3rd or 4th best team in that district. This also goes for Nevada and Centralia district. I am not complaining about Hannibal being screw over the #1 Seed. This will help Hannibal with home advantage in the Quarterfinals!
yep and it doesn't take the quality of the 'bigger' school into account at all.
I am doing the math on that exact thing and yes Blair Oaks will be able to pass them easily.
Even though Moberly's Play up points are high (10 to be exact) to 5.7 for Blair Oaks
The SOS of that is considerably poorer than BO. 13.57 for Moberly and about 16.1 for Blair Oaks
When you play those numbers out 2 more weeks based upon the most predicted results Moberly will lose SOS points and only maintain their Play up points. Blair Oaks would lose play up points but should gain in SOS.
Most likely result will between 56.19 for Moberly and 56.32 for Blair Oaks. Each win vs loss in SOS will be vital with a sway of .15 of a point for each win vs loss.
With that being said Photo finish but Blair Oaks can pull this out even though Moberly's Play up points are strong.
and this was with Moberly beating JC. Moberly has to win out to have a shot of getting the #1 seed.
Poplar Bluff has head to head wins over Farmington and Cape Central in Class 5 District 1 but right now standings have Bluff 3rd behind Cape at 1 and Farmington at 2. If the season ended today and the seeding meetings were to happen would that mean Poplar Bluff would jump both in the standings for the top spot?
They will anyway because of will head to head.
Well at least one spot. I don’t think Mshsaa has had that happen
They will only jump one. You can only move once and works top down. So if by points they finish 3rd, they will jump Farmington but be 2nd. If they finish 2nd they would jump Cape and be 1st. There is no seed meeting. It’s automatic switch based on head to head. Would be tough for Bluff that they would have beaten Cape, Farmington and Fox and could finish behind all of them in points. Don’t know if MSHSAA has ever seen that.
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