Democrats are literally clueless

[cardsrock15]

Every energy policy by the Biden administration has been aimed at restricting the domestic supply of fossil fuels and pushing the price up to force consumers to "Green Energy"

And they wonder why prices are going up

"We can’t let energy companies squeeze American consumers with unaffordable energy bills at home while reaping record profits through LNG exports abroad," Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., said in a statement. "The Department of Energy needs to reevaluate its LNG export policies and figure out how to keep prices low for American consumers. Until the Department has a plan, it should consider halting permit approvals of LNG export facilities."

What do they think is going to happen to energy bills when they transition completely away from fossil fuels??

 

[r14veer]

If you think that his policies are the only factor in this, then you are most likely not well-informed on the issue. Or, maybe more likely, your sources of information are not terribly diverse. I'd say "ignorant," but you'd probably take offense to that, so I'll stick with "not well-informed."

The Biden Administration's policies could be one factor...except that most have not even been enacted despite what your sources mislead you to believe (purposely, of course). You could more accurately say that the industry is reacting to the possibility of the policies being enacted into law, but that still lays the blame with the oil industry because there is certainly no guarantee that the policies even will be enacted.

More likely, though, as so often seems to be the case, the truth is somewhat more complex no matter how much we want to pretend that things exist in simple black and white: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...g-the-finger-pointing-on-high-gasoline-prices

 

[cardsrock15]

If you think that his policies are the only factor in this, then you are most likely not well-informed on the issue. Or, maybe more likely, your sources of information are not terribly diverse. I'd say "ignorant," but you'd probably take offense to that, so I'll stick with "not well-informed."

The Biden Administration's policies could be one factor...except that most have not even been enacted despite what your sources mislead you to believe (purposely, of course). You could more accurately say that the industry is reacting to the possibility of the policies being enacted into law, but that still lays the blame with the oil industry because there is certainly no guarantee that the policies even will be enacted.

More likely, though, as so often seems to be the case, the truth is somewhat more complex no matter how much we want to pretend that things exist in simple black and white: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...g-the-finger-pointing-on-high-gasoline-prices

OIl and gas companies are not going to continue to invest money into an industry that our government has, by policy from our president made a promise to do away with in the next 20 years.

If you owned a company who makes its profits by exploring for, and producing fossil fuels why in heavens name at this point in time would you be doing anything except trying to maximize your profits while you are still in business??

 

[r14veer]

OIl and gas companies are not going to continue to invest money into an industry that our government has, by policy from our president made a promise to do away with in the next 20 years.

If you owned a company who makes its profits by exploring for, and producing fossil fuels why in heavens name at this point in time would you be doing anything except trying to maximize your profits while you are still in business??

I agree, it is a genius scam. It's similar to the firearms industry every time a Democrat gets elected.

 

[cardsrock15]

I agree, it is a genius scam. It's similar to the firearms industry every time a Democrat gets elected.

Not the same thing at all, The federal government is telling the fossil fuel industry that they are going to shut it down. " We are going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business" Why in the world would anyone in his right mind invest in the coal industry when that is the position of the democratic party.

Question to Biden "Would you close down the oil industry"

Biden "Yes, I would transition"

Question to Biden "Why would you do that"

Biden "Because the oil industry pollutes, Significantly. Because it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time"

Again, why would any sane investor want to pump money into an industry that the Democrats and the president of the United States have went on record saying they plan to close down in the next 20 years????

No incentive for oil companies to do any long term capital investments when government policy is to put them out of business. Hope people are ready for cold winters and $1000 a month energy bills because wind and solar wont be close to being able to supply our nations energy needs EVER

 

[3Rfan]

Not the same thing at all, The federal government is telling the fossil fuel industry that they are going to shut it down. " We are going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business" Why in the world would anyone in his right mind invest in the coal industry when that is the position of the democratic party.

Question to Biden "Would you close down the oil industry"

Biden "Yes, I would transition"

Question to Biden "Why would you do that"

Biden "Because the oil industry pollutes, Significantly. Because it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time"

Again, why would any sane investor want to pump money into an industry that the Democrats and the president of the United States have went on record saying they plan to close down in the next 20 years????

No incentive for oil companies to do any long term capital investments when government policy is to put them out of business. Hope people are ready for cold winters and $1000 a month energy bills because wind and solar wont be close to being able to supply our nations energy needs EVER

So that's a good reason to cut production now?

 

[MGHS]

I agree, it is a genius scam. It's similar to the firearms industry every time a Democrat gets elected.

Except that the Dem's do want to enact Gun Laws that will take away Guns....the very guns needed for Protection. Or they want to enact fee's and undo Red tape to obtain a Absolute Constitutional Right for Bearing Arms and protecting one's self.

That is 100% different than the Oil industry.

 

[MGHS]

So that's a good reason to cut production now?

Yes.....cost reduction to raise prices to Maximize Profits in the short term before they are out of business. That is what business do.

They are not in Business to give you goods or service at the cheapest rate possible.

They are in business to yield maximum profit for their Investors. Simple as that. The Consumers are really last on the list of concern...unless some one comes up with a actual legit green tech that doesn't rely on fossil fuels to compete with them.

 

[r14veer]

Except that the Dem's do want to enact Gun Laws that will take away Guns....the very guns needed for Protection. Or they want to enact fee's and undo Red tape to obtain a Absolute Constitutional Right for Bearing Arms and protecting one's self.

That is 100% different than the Oil industry.

No. Using fear to maximize profits is exactly the same tactic.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Except that the Dem's do want to enact Gun Laws that will take away Guns....the very guns needed for Protection. Or they want to enact fee's and undo Red tape to obtain a Absolute Constitutional Right for Bearing Arms and protecting one's self.

That is 100% different than the Oil industry.

meme-sy

 

[MGHS]

No. Using fear to maximize profits is exactly the same tactic.

The gun industry doesn't use fear.....the tactics of of the Dem party create fear. The gun industry doesn't reduce production they actually increase it to meet demand, not the same as the oil industry at all.

 

[MGHS]

meme-sy

Shade

 

[r14veer]

The gun industry doesn't use fear.....the tactics of of the Dem party create fear. The gun industry doesn't reduce production they actually increase it to meet demand, not the same as the oil industry at all.

The demand exists because people fear that Democrats will take their guns/ammunition. The gun industry and their retailers know this.

 

[MGHS]

Of course they do...and the Dem's are actively trying to pass legislation, fee's and taxes to make owning a firearm almost impossible. Add in that Democratic led cities have become cesspools of violence and crime ...well the fear is real. Why wouldn't the gun industry try to make a profit off it?

 

[r14veer]

Of course they do...and the Dem's are actively trying to pass legislation, fee's and taxes to make owning a firearm almost impossible. Add in that Democratic led cities have become cesspools of violence and crime ...well the fear is real. Why wouldn't the gun industry try to make a profit off it?

If you could point to some pending national legislation that is going to "make owning a firearm almost impossible," without using partisan hyperbole or the slippery slope fallacy, then I might be more inclined to at least entertain your notion. However, this has been the same...old...conservative....talking point for so long and yet here we are with no unreasonable limitations at a national level.

Bills are introduced all the time, and most never see the light of day, but the gun industry never lets a good bout of fear-mongering go to waste. Tale as old as time. I think part of the issue here is that some people have this idea that the Second Amendment is absolute, and never has a court found this to be the case, no matter the ideological makeup of that court, no matter how much some people wish it to be so. Even Justice Scalia, who delivered the court's opinion in District of Columbia et al vs Heller, knows this:

"2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56."

 

[cardsrock15]

If you could point to some pending national legislation that is going to "make owning a firearm almost impossible," without using partisan hyperbole or the slippery slope fallacy, then I might be more inclined to at least entertain your notion. However, this has been the same...old...conservative....talking point for so long and yet here we are with no unreasonable limitations at a national level.

Bills are introduced all the time, and most never see the light of day, but the gun industry never lets a good bout of fear-mongering go to waste. Tale as old as time. I think part of the issue here is that some people have this idea that the Second Amendment is absolute, and never has a court found this to be the case, no matter the ideological makeup of that court, no matter how much some people wish it to be so. Even Justice Scalia, who delivered the court's opinion in District of Columbia et al vs Heller, knows this:

"2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56."

I agree with "in common use at the time",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,today AR-15's,,AK-47,,M16,,H&K Subguns and Uzies are all in common use and should be available to the general public.

The second amendment is the only part of the constitution that has this phrase "Shall not be Infringed" or something like it. Infringing on something means just taking a tiny bit off one of the edges to lessen its reach.

 

[bullitpdq68]

lets not let actual facts get in the way. Production went off line, as you can see it takes time to increase but the supply is still there it is just not being pumped, take it from somebody who actually owns oil wells we are not pumping but the supply is still there.
Do you ever think that maybe the oil companies control us and how we vote by controlling supply? What better way to get a party more freindly to your goals in power by controlling supply and making the voter feel it at the pump. All the while taking in record profit? I just look at that and it makes me wonder. I mean Putin is doing it over in Europe he controls their supply of natural gas so now many don't care what he does.... like a dealer get them hooked and then threaten to take it away and charge more.

 

[r14veer]

I agree with "in common use at the time",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,today AR-15's,,AK-47,,M16,,H&K Subguns and Uzies are all in common use and should be available to the general public.

The second amendment is the only part of the constitution that has this phrase "Shall not be Infringed" or something like it. Infringing on something means just taking a tiny bit off one of the edges to lessen its reach.

Nobody's right to own a firearm is infringed if you can still go out and buy a firearm. Just because you can't get military grade weapons does not mean your right to bear arms is being infringed. Further, it doesn't say in the Constitution that the mentally ill can't buy a firearm nor convicted felons, but a reasonable person/society recognizes that those are situations in which infringement is warranted. No right is absolute and no court has ever ruled that one is. That is fantasy land.

 

[cardsrock15]

Nobody's right to own a firearm is infringed if you can still go out and buy a firearm. Just because you can't get military grade weapons does not mean your right to bear arms is being infringed. Further, it doesn't say in the Constitution that the mentally ill can't buy a firearm nor convicted felons, but a reasonable person/society recognizes that those are situations in which infringement is warranted. No right is absolute and no court has ever ruled that one is. That is fantasy land.

No its not,,,you dont like it then just change the constitution its that simple. What part of "Shall Not be infringed" is so hard for you people to understand??? Four simple words

 

[cardsrock15]

lets not let actual facts get in the way. Production went off line, as you can see it takes time to increase but the supply is still there it is just not being pumped, take it from somebody who actually owns oil wells we are not pumping but the supply is still there.
Do you ever think that maybe the oil companies control us and how we vote by controlling supply? What better way to get a party more freindly to your goals in power by controlling supply and making the voter feel it at the pump. All the while taking in record profit? I just look at that and it makes me wonder. I mean Putin is doing it over in Europe he controls their supply of natural gas so now many don't care what he does.... like a dealer get them hooked and then threaten to take it away and charge more.

 

[cardsrock15]

Biden plans to have energy production "carbon free" by 2013 which is only 13 years. No reason to do any long range investment in a dying industry.

What a lot of people dont understand is that about 50% of our natural gas comes as a bye product of oil drilling. When oil production ceases and we lose that 50% of supply things going to get real expensive.

Biden is planning to shut down the oil industry by 2035, has anyone actually heard concrete plans on where he intends the energy to run our nation to come from in 13 short years without oil and its distillates???

glad I have enough wood on my place to heat the house and shop till I die

 

[Veer2Eternity]

No its not,,,you dont like it then just change the constitution its that simple. What part of "Shall Not be infringed" is so hard for you people to understand??? Four simple words

"Well Regulated Militia"

We tend to leave that part out.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Biden plans to have energy production "carbon free" by 2013 which is only 13 years. No reason to do any long range investment in a dying industry.

 

[MGHS]

If you could point to some pending national legislation that is going to "make owning a firearm almost impossible," without using partisan hyperbole or the slippery slope fallacy, then I might be more inclined to at least entertain your notion. However, this has been the same...old...conservative....talking point for so long and yet here we are with no unreasonable limitations at a national level.

Bills are introduced all the time, and most never see the light of day, but the gun industry never lets a good bout of fear-mongering go to waste. Tale as old as time. I think part of the issue here is that some people have this idea that the Second Amendment is absolute, and never has a court found this to be the case, no matter the ideological makeup of that court, no matter how much some people wish it to be so. Even Justice Scalia, who delivered the court's opinion in District of Columbia et al vs Heller, knows this:

"2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56."

If there intent is not to get rid of weapons then why keep introducing Bills? Their stated goal is to get rid of weapons. Their plan is simple keep chipping away hoping to erode and create comprise between the two sides until the easy owner ship of guns is impossible.....reduce magazine capacity, get rid of home defense weapons like AR-15, create fee's and taxes for owning legal guns...like they passed in San Diego, next it will be and guns. They don't hide what their intent is. I mean the very talking points they use like that weapon isn't for hunting why would anyone need it....Well first off the Second Amendment isn't about hunting at all, it's about protection and the ability to stand against a totalitarian regime.

They literally state they want to ban and eliminate certain firearms, that are rarely used in lethal situations or to commit crimes. Why by any stretch of the imagination do the Dem's want to punish and hinder Law abiding citizens for owning legal guns? Why are they not intent on stopping Criminals from committing crimes? Did outlawing Booze work? How has the Drug war worked out?

Either the Dem's have a motive that is scary or they are stupid....Criminals commit violent crimes not guns. And criminals are and will be invested in getting guns no matter the law.

 

[MGHS]

Either you are ill informed or believe the BS....AR-15 are not military grade fire arms by any stretch of the imagination and cannot be converted into military grade fire arms. They don't begin to meet those spec's...

Nobody's right to own a firearm is infringed if you can still go out and buy a firearm. Just because you can't get military grade weapons does not mean your right to bear arms is being infringed. Further, it doesn't say in the Constitution that the mentally ill can't buy a firearm nor convicted felons, but a reasonable person/society recognizes that those are situations in which infringement is warranted. No right is absolute and no court has ever ruled that one is. That is fantasy land.

This veteran and Gunsmith will explain it to you. Clearly You believe the MSM on this subject. I can promise you AR15 are not military grade or Full Auto. And any of my Military buddies can tell you the same.

Now you can own a Full Auto weapon if you want to pay the Cash and have the ATF in your Grill and submit to their authority, with a weapon stamp and unannounced checks at any time. But the Average Joe can't go to Bass Pro and by a Military Grade weapon by any stretch.

Here is a link to a Dem...who Biden wants to be part of his gun legislation and control committee ...Clearly he and other Dem's are not wanting to take Guns at all, like I or any sane person believes that. And the Whole point of GUNS is for Self Protection and killing a Deadly Threat. Not to Hunt! Killing a person with ease is the point. That is why the way the are easy to operate and use for all body types.

Beto Says ‘Hell Yes’ We’re Going To Take Americans’ Guns; WATCH How Democratic Crowd Responds

At the third Democratic debate in Houston, Texas on Thursday, former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-TX) made gun control comments that immediately went viral. Asked if he was really calling for confiscating “assault-style rifles” legally owned by Americans, O’Rourke said, “Hell yes.” “Some on this stage...

www.dailywire.com

I mean literally Biden and other Dem's have stated they want to Ban Self Defense weapons to protect a citizens Family and Friends from Criminals.

Dem's say we are not taking your Weapons out one side of their mouth then out the other they Claim they are banning and taking them.

There are no nuances in this debate. AR-15 are not military grade. They are not a large Caliber, just bigger than a .22LR. And AR-15 are not convertible to full Automatic.

You know as well as I do if they Can ban AR-15 ...next will be handguns which kill more people than any other weapons system and Finally it will be Large Caliber Dangerous big Game hunting weapons, if they can Bring down a Big Animal OMG think what they can do to a person.

 

[MGHS]

"Well Regulated Militia"

We tend to leave that part out.

Nobody is leaving that out a Militia it is a Civilian force 100%, not a part of the govt. And if you read the Amendment there are coma's in there for a reason. You are leaving out the part coma then---the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS shall not be INFRINGED. Nothing about a a Govt sponsored Military force in the whole 2nd Amendment.

Don't confuse the National Guard with a Militia......they are not related by any stretch.

 

[MGHS]

lets not let actual facts get in the way. Production went off line, as you can see it takes time to increase but the supply is still there it is just not being pumped, take it from somebody who actually owns oil wells we are not pumping but the supply is still there.
Do you ever think that maybe the oil companies control us and how we vote by controlling supply? What better way to get a party more freindly to your goals in power by controlling supply and making the voter feel it at the pump. All the while taking in record profit? I just look at that and it makes me wonder. I mean Putin is doing it over in Europe he controls their supply of natural gas so now many don't care what he does.... like a dealer get them hooked and then threaten to take it away and charge more.

Sure there is gas out there but why produce it when the govt is against you and cutting into your margin. And yes I bet oil companies want the Dem's out. Expensive Energy is bad for everyone.

 

[bullitpdq68]

Biden plans to have energy production "carbon free" by 2013 which is only 13 years. No reason to do any long range investment in a dying industry.

What a lot of people dont understand is that about 50% of our natural gas comes as a bye product of oil drilling. When oil production ceases and we lose that 50% of supply things going to get real expensive.

Biden is planning to shut down the oil industry by 2035, has anyone actually heard concrete plans on where he intends the energy to run our nation to come from in 13 short years without oil and its distillates???

glad I have enough wood on my place to heat the house and shop till I die

First off it is already 2022 so we are way past 2013? Worring about you Card?

Second not a Biden fan, but I understand we could have 3 more presidents and 4-5 different power changes in congress by 2035, so nobody is shutting nothing down that date will always get pushed out you and I both know that! All presidents thru the years have promised something to thier side, hell Trump promised to build a big beautiful wall and Mexico was going to pay for it, his base ate that crap up, well guess what? it an't done, Mexico never paid a penny our tax dollars did and what did get built wasn't a wall. It's called hyperhole politics promise something your base want's to get the votes knowing they will have to settle for way less and by that time you will be gone and tell your base it's the other parties fault and the rinse and repeat!!

And third, Oil is needed for so many other things, what do you think they use to manufactor all those solar panels, and what keeps the wind turbines going. Oil an't going nowhere Oil companies know that, hell I know it and you should too. While I own the oil we get no say in the pumping or how much we sale? but we are making record profits right now selling very little. It's called controlling the market!!!! If you want to be pissed at somebody be pissed at big oil, because most wells are way under producing right now so while you suffer at the pump big oil is raking in record profits and thier CEO's are burning cash just for fun. So I would suggest you buy stock in oil companies and just enjoy ride too.

 

[cardsrock15]

First off it is already 2022 so we are way past 2013? Worring about you Card?

Second not a Biden fan, but I understand we could have 3 more presidents and 4-5 different power changes in congress by 2035, so nobody is shutting nothing down that date will always get pushed out you and I both know that! All presidents thru the years have promised something to thier side, hell Trump promised to build a big beautiful wall and Mexico was going to pay for it, his base ate that crap up, well guess what? it an't done, Mexico never paid a penny our tax dollars did and what did get built wasn't a wall. It's called hyperhole politics promise something your base want's to get the votes knowing they will have to settle for way less and by that time you will be gone and tell your base it's the other parties fault and the rinse and repeat!!

And third, Oil is needed for so many other things, what do you think they use to manufactor all those solar panels, and what keeps the wind turbines going. Oil an't going nowhere Oil companies know that, hell I know it and you should too. While I own the oil we get no say in the pumping or how much we sale? but we are making record profits right now selling very little. It's called controlling the market!!!! If you want to be pissed at somebody be pissed at big oil, because most wells are way under producing right now so while you suffer at the pump big oil is raking in record profits and thier CEO's are burning cash just for fun. So I would suggest you buy stock in oil companies and just enjoy ride too.

I was out in Kermit not long ago working on some sand plants that had been shut down for a year or so, guys were talking about what they were going to be doing for a living.

We have idiots running this country, and people voting for them that don't understand what it takes to produce all of the energy ( electricity, oil, coal, natural gas, wood) that it takes to run this country. Right now "Green Energy" produces less than 1% of the total energy needed to power this nation and those people want to turn the oil pumps off in the next 10-12 years its unbelievable

 

[bullitpdq68]

I was out in Kermit not long ago working on some sand plants that had been shut down for a year or so, guys were talking about what they were going to be doing for a living.

We have idiots running this country, and people voting for them that don't understand what it takes to produce all of the energy ( electricity, oil, coal, natural gas, wood) that it takes to run this country. Right now "Green Energy" produces less than 1% of the total energy needed to power this nation and those people want to turn the oil pumps off in the next 10-12 years its unbelievable

Again I don't think anybody is going to turn off those oil pumps in the next 10-12 years and I don't think you believe that will happen either you are too smart to fall for that crap. We both know political power changes ever 2-4 years between the parties no matter who controls the White house. We are just pawns in that power struggle and they use our fears to get elected.... Once people learn that and know that those promises are just empty promises maybe just maybe we can elect some people that will actually do good for all and not just the 30 or 40% who they can scare into voting for them because the other side is evil.

Hell right now I am looking at doing solar interested in it but the price tag just is not there right now. But it does interest me not because I am a tree hugger, but because I can produce my own power and not pay somebody else.

 

[cardsrock15]

Again I don't think anybody is going to turn off those oil pumps in the next 10-12 years and I don't think you believe that will happen either you are too smart to fall for that crap. We both know political power changes ever 2-4 years between the parties no matter who controls the White house. We are just pawns in that power struggle and they use our fears to get elected.... Once people learn that and know that those promises are just empty promises maybe just maybe we can elect some people that will actually do good for all and not just the 30 or 40% who they can scare into voting for them because the other side is evil.

Hell right now I am looking at doing solar interested in it but the price tag just is not there right now. But it does interest me not because I am a tree hugger, but because I can produce my own power and not pay somebody else.

My home is off grid for power except for my A/C and a few emergency circuits in house in case solar system or inverters go down. I forget exactly how many watts of solar panels I have but have three 80 amp MPPT charge controllers regulating the power going to six 4 volt Trojan lead acid batteries. Multiple inverters feeding a 200 amp breaker panel (son is an IBEW electrician he is not impressed with some of my wiring Then a seperate 200 amp panel carries the utility power.

Since I put it in about 8 years ago it hasnt skipped a beat. Every three months I water the batteries and clean and tighten all of the terminals and check it over. If you are pretty handy with a multimeter its not rocket science. I think I have about $20,000 invested in the system before rebates. It will never pay for itself but its interesting to mess with. People think I am "anti green" but I live with making my own power every day and understand what it takes to make reliable power to run your home ( and I still heat with a 1000 gallon propane tank)

Put a picture of my battery bank on my Avatar. They are almost 8 years old and still working well. Those are about $1200 each

 

[r14veer]

No its not,,,you dont like it then just change the constitution its that simple. What part of "Shall Not be infringed" is so hard for you people to understand??? Four simple words

I guess the conservative Supreme Court justice (Antonin Scalia) who wrote the opinion on the Heller case doesn't understand the constitution then. I'm not sure what part of that is so hard for "you people" to understand. The law does not deal in absolutes. I'm amused that so many people are so mis-informed to think that it does. It would sure be easier if it did, but then justice wouldn't always be served because every single case is unique. Trying to impose a black/white worldview on the law is simple-minded and childish.

 

[r14veer]

Nobody is leaving that out a Militia it is a Civilian force 100%, not a part of the govt. And if you read the Amendment there are coma's in there for a reason. You are leaving out the part coma then---the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS shall not be INFRINGED. Nothing about a a Govt sponsored Military force in the whole 2nd Amendment.

Don't confuse the National Guard with a Militia......they are not related by any stretch.

Ummmm....Well: https://www.nationalguard.mil/about-the-guard/how-we-began/

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Ummmm....Well: https://www.nationalguard.mil/about-the-guard/how-we-began/

He lives in an alternate reality.

One in which he is never wrong; Thus he never learns anything.