Cubs get Heyward also.
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MLB has it too. Cubbies seem to have a plan. That's for sure. He's a great fit for that group.
Oh well. Still other options out there. I'd be fine with Gordon and an arm for the rotation. I'm not sure it makes sense to pay a guy that kind of money when his legs and defense are his #1 tools at this point through his career anyway. Still, the reactionary move to get him for Miller in the first place is what makes this hurt more than anything.
Move Schwarber behind the plate, Bryant to LF, and insert Baez at 3B...It'd be like slow-pitch meets MLB. I'd probably watch all their games. Granted they'd probably take four hours, but it'd be fun!
I don't think Heyward is that big of a deal. Still decent options out there (Davis, UPTON!!!, or Gordo).
What would it take to get CarGo to Stl? Seems like his name pops up in July every year as a possible trade piece.
What would it take to get CarGo to Stl? Seems like his name pops up in July every year as a possible trade piece.
CarGo's name has apparently been floated as a trade target recently, but I'm not sure how serious it was. I wonder what kind of package (including Matt Adams) it would take to pry Evan Longoria from Tampa? Move Marp to 1st and start Piscotty in RF and you have Moss as your 1B/OF sub.
PLLLLEEEEAASSSSSEEEEEE trade for CarGo. Just dont look at his splits before the trade
Soler moved for Ross/Carrasco/Salazar
Schwarber won't catch, probably ever again. Wilson Contreras will be the next catcher. Possibly middle of this year. For sure 2017
Soler moved for Ross/Carrasco/Salazar
Schwarber won't catch, probably ever again. Wilson Contreras will be the next catcher. Possibly middle of this year. For sure 2017
What drove up the cost for Heyward? Looking at career stats is not all that impressive. Don't get me wrong, I would have loved for him to stay, but my goodness.
4 out of 6 big league seasons he has less than 15 homers and less that 60 RBIs...
Market?
Defense?
"Upside" since he is only 26?
Or Theo saying "suck it, cardinals fans"?
4 out of 6 big league seasons he has less than 15 homers and less that 60 RBIs...
Market?
Defense?
"Upside" since he is only 26?
Or Theo saying "suck it, cardinals fans"?
Elite defense, speed, baserunning, and age were the factors that drove up his market. He's just entering his prime so the thought goes that he'll become a better hitter as well. Going to Wrigley will inflate his numbers some, but I'm still not sold that he'll ever become a guy who tears the cover off the ball. Check out below. Who is Player A? Hint: He won't be getting an insanely high contract.
Heyward
R 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
79 33 4 13 60 23 56 90 .293 .359 .439 .797 116
Player A
R 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
83 36 5 14 51 14 28 92 .291 .328 .452 .780 110
Heyward
R 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
79 33 4 13 60 23 56 90 .293 .359 .439 .797 116
Player A
R 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
83 36 5 14 51 14 28 92 .291 .328 .452 .780 110
lol Kenny. Duck you do need to relax. Everything looks bad, but we won 100 games last year. Plenty of time to build a competitive squad. In MO I trust. Time to start improving the club!!!!!! No doubt the Cubs are putting the pressure on. They are building their team off the backs of ex-Birds. The war for supremacy of the NL Central has a new front runner. Pirates have done less than the Birds, Great theater!!
Cards get Gorden and he is not much of a downgrade from Heyward with fewer years and less money. Winning player
get another starter Leake or Chen
We have to live with a popgun offense
Go Birds!!!
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Mo and Matheny have created such a wonderful culture our veteran players CHOOSE to go to the Cubs. VB your fake cheerfulness won't help you in April.
Maybe not, but he's a 2x gold glover and still only 28 and last year they were comparable offensively. The kicker is that he won't cost $20+ million a year, either.
agree goin and Ducky I can panic with the best of them it's just not that time yet!
I'm not cheerful at all, just not willing to panic just yet. The Cubs have really put the Cards in a bind. No other sport is as much fun as baseball during their off season.
They choose to go the Cubs when the Cubs offer them more money per year and two opt outs.
We were outbid.
Effectively, Heyward is getting $78 M over 3 years. It's really $26 M a year for 3 years (ignoring the impacts of time value of money, as some of the signing bonus is deferred and the Cards offer is over a long period of time, too) He will hit FA again at 29 with a chance to sign another $200 M contract in a world where baseball will have even more money than it does today. He has a $106 M insurance policy if things go wrong with the last 5 years of the deal.
I think he made the obvious financial decision.
Heyward is being paid $15 million next season
$20 million deferred bonus
$21.5 for years 2 and 3
Some very complex contract lingo for everything else. Unless he gets injured or complete forgets how to play baseball....that is his contract with Chicago
$20 million deferred bonus
$21.5 for years 2 and 3
Some very complex contract lingo for everything else. Unless he gets injured or complete forgets how to play baseball....that is his contract with Chicago
Heyward said he wanted to go somewhere he would have fun and make sure his family is safe? I know St.Louis has had some issues lately but you go to the north side of Chicago to keep your family safe, really?????
The North Side of Chicago is safe. The South Side is generally the rough part
It's not like any of these athletes live anywhere near the rough parts of town anyway
Do you know anything about the city? North is the lake and money. South is the ghetto.
Plus,name a professional sports town that is safe. I'm guessing you're not finding many. Maybe the shooting right outside of the gate had something to do with it?
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