If Coaches are monitoring their athletes and a large percent of kids are asymptomatic then how in the world is it possible for a player to play in a game then test positive? I know from experience for someone to get tested especially under the age of 29 they must have symptoms.
COVID Testing and Players
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Are you refer to a specific situation or just asking in general? For the most part kids aren't being tested without symptoms unless they are going in for some type of procedure.
my granddaughter is 16 she had no symptoms and had to be tested because someone she was around tested positive.
Who said she had to be tested? I am almost positive that schools cannot require students or staff to get test. All they can do is recommend it.
It just feels like there are 114 different set of rules covering COVID one per county. In a neighboring county teams are told if they wear masks they will not quarantine whereas our county if you look at someone through binoculars with COVID you are out 10-14 days. I just wish someone at the state level would step up and say here it is.
The problem arises when the team that's following the rules has several kids sitting out for 2 whole weeks just because they were exposed to someone plays against a team that just says fvck it - we're not sitting anyone out. You end up with a lot of JV guys going against someone else's varsity. At least let's have a level playing field with some statewide standards.
What I do not understand is how teams are cancelling games hours before they are to kick off? That makes absolutely zero sense, how in the wide wide world of sports do you not know of a covid issue with your team before Friday afternoon?
Now Im no, scientist but perhaps a school is waiting on a test result? Not wanting to cancel when they dont have to? Again, Im no scientist.
That's a good point however if coaches are monitoring players like they are suppose to then symptomatic players would not have been practicing and therefore a positive result would not matter to the entire team only the individual player. I know for a fact that coaches in this area are checking temperatures and symptoms of players before they even practice. Unless you are in an area that is just randomly testing which to my knowledge does not exist then there should be no issues other than maybe a few players not being available for a game.
Hopefully a school waiting on a last second result would notify their opponent before Friday and at least give them a heads up.
"Monitoring symptoms," including taking a temperature, does nothing but provide a false sense of security, since a large percentage are asymptomatic. It's literally a way to make it look like we are doing something, when, in fact, we are not. Testing is testing. Everything else is pretending.
And 90% of people with a temperature don’t have Covid. Everyone is wasting their time taking temperature readings.
All of the mask wearers out there,,,,do you realize that if your mask is doing it’s job at the end of the day the outside is covered with Covid-19 creatures and is hazardous????Have you been trained on how to safely remove your mask using gloves and how to place it in a hazmat bag for proper disposal, then how to properly remove your gloves and dispose of them???
Exactly! Then why are these student-athletes being tested when the criteria for testing is being symptomatic? The only safe way to monitor the covid is to test everyone involved weekly which the state will not do.
I know of 5 student-athletes who were all symptomatic and all tested negative. Yet had to leave their practices for precautionary measures and wait for results. Only to find out they still had to wait 14 days.
Better safe than sorry in the area of public health.
So catching 10% of potential cases is a waste of time!? NICE TRY!!!
Almost 50% of positive cases have no symptoms including elevated temperatures.
90% of people with elevated temperatures don’t have covid
Taking temperature of a person is s waste of time
"90% of people with elevated temperatures don't have COVID."
That implies 10% of people who have COVID DO have an elevated temperature. Swing and a miss buddy!!
I think that any research scientist would tell you that a test that is only accurate 10% of the time is not a test worth doing
Wow Bosko. Who knew infectious disease was such an important topic to you!
Do you want one decision for the entire state? Seems silly to think STL county and Webster county are similar in regards to this. So yeah, it's going to look different. And some aren't going to be able to do the same as others. Just the way it is. Sort of like staying home if you're sick or pre-disposed. That sucks, like really sucks. But why should everyone else have to do the same?
I'm not a supporter, but I honestly think he believes in local control. That has nothing to do with being scared to make a decision.
If you have a temperature over 100 you are sick. Maybe you don't have covid but you do have something and should not be at a school function. Maybe what you have makes you more susceptible to covid or can easily be spread to others. Or maybe you do have covid. Either way you should stay home. I strongly disagree with you.
One of the few benefits of this mess could be the monitoring of students temperatures.
and you never heard of one athlete making the news who ever dies of influenza. why havent you ever raised such grave concern on the flu when we know that is more deadly to our youth than Covid ever will be
Question that has probably already been addressed that I missed. If you cancel a game due to Covid is it a forfeit?
When Mexico had to cancel playing Centralia. We didn't get a win and it says on MSHSAA website it was cancelled.
Queue all the covidiots who say "yeah, he was only 20 years old and played college football, but at 6'3", 355#, he was overweight. Therefore, it shouldn't be counted as a COVID death."
Because, y'know, only deaths of perfectly healthy people with no medical problems whatsoever should count as a COVID death.
...when we know the flu is more deadly to our youth than Covid ever will be? What is your source for this information?
Yes, Bosko does use facts and logic when making an agrument! Now dont cross me!!
He made the decision to lift restrictions.
If the safety measures work then there doesn't need to be any restrictions at any level. You can choose to wear any ppe you see necessary, you can choose to avoid crowds, and you can choose when and where to shop and eat. If your situation requires extra precaution then you have the freedom to take any and all measures you see necessary to protect yourself. If you think other are not taking proper precaution then you are free to not associate with them.
It takes a big man to admit he's not a scientist and an even bigger man to display his total ignorance on a message board. I congratulate you on both of these accomplishments.
- To get tested you must be symptomatic!!!!! To help you out this is the medical definition: Symptomatic can mean showing symptoms, or it may concern a specific symptom. Symptoms are signs of disease or injury. ... When someone has the common symptoms associated with a disease or condition, they are considered symptomatic. When a disease exists without noticeable symptoms, the person is asymptomatic.
- This means if a school is waiting on a test result to decide whether or not to play then the player being tested has shown signs of the COVID. Otherwise they will not be tested.
- With this criteria in place that means the athlete in question had been displaying symptoms of COVID before being tested. Which brings us back to the primary point of why with all the vetting was these athletes allowed to practice and be around the team!
That viewpoint is entirely too sensible for this forum. Take that noise somewhere else!
You're darn right Shoot!!!
Ok you bozo!!! I CLEARLY stated I was NOT a scientist!!! I was merely offering you my hypothesis as to why some schools are possibly cancelling the day of or before a game!!! Im beginning to think you don't understand what the words "total ignorance" even mean!! If you're ever in Ampipe, you have a freshly made knuckle sandwich waiting for you!!!!!!
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