Coach vs Fan Poll- Shot Clock HS
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No. I like the 3. I'm pretty sure I know who the first Missouri HS player to make a 3 was. Jeff Wyatt (former Mercer player, just resigned as Mercer boys coach) made a 3 at Lineville, Iowa, during the 1984-85 season.
I wonder if changing the poll to over 35 - under 35 if that would make a difference.
I catch myself doing a lot of things I said I would never be. Set in my ways. Things were better back in the day, etc. Is this just another one of us not being open to change.
I catch myself doing a lot of things I said I would never be. Set in my ways. Things were better back in the day, etc. Is this just another one of us not being open to change.
probably a lot of truth to that
Me- against 57
Daughter- for 23
Son- for 20
Wife - tired of sports
Anyone actually playing the game currently at any level anywhere — For.
Several years ago we actually did a poll of about 200 HS players, boys and girls, mostly seniors, who were among the best players in our area.
There were a few who didn't have a strong opinion and didn't want to answer. But among those who answered — there was not one single vote against implementing the shot clock. Not one.
It was like 185-0.
That was long enough ago that some of those players have graduated college and become coaches themselves – and a few probably changed their minds along the way.
But there's a reason why when you leave kids to choose and play their own game in open gym or wherever, that they don't immediately start holding the ball at half court. Players want to play. I spent a lot of time when I was in the military playing pickup ball all over the world. From overseas to Chicago, San Diego and all points in between. Probably not ever very well, but often enough that I enjoyed it.
I never saw anyone play a game and run around and not trying to score. In most places a game with a team running around with the ball not looking to score would end with a punch to the face if you're lucky. You would definitely be sent packing and fortunate if that's all that you got sent home with.
Only in high school. Not in the Olympics, FIBA, NCAA, NBA, G League, WNBA, or anywhere basketball is being played.
The funny thing is that basketball is literally the only game where the rules are purposefully written to enhance competitiveness for lesser talented teams. That was the expressed reasoning behind the NFHS opting not to implement the shot clock.
I don't understand what people are scared of ... it's like they know if they take the training wheels off they might fall over.
Several years ago we actually did a poll of about 200 HS players, boys and girls, mostly seniors, who were among the best players in our area.
There were a few who didn't have a strong opinion and didn't want to answer. But among those who answered — there was not one single vote against implementing the shot clock. Not one.
It was like 185-0.
That was long enough ago that some of those players have graduated college and become coaches themselves – and a few probably changed their minds along the way.
But there's a reason why when you leave kids to choose and play their own game in open gym or wherever, that they don't immediately start holding the ball at half court. Players want to play. I spent a lot of time when I was in the military playing pickup ball all over the world. From overseas to Chicago, San Diego and all points in between. Probably not ever very well, but often enough that I enjoyed it.
I never saw anyone play a game and run around and not trying to score. In most places a game with a team running around with the ball not looking to score would end with a punch to the face if you're lucky. You would definitely be sent packing and fortunate if that's all that you got sent home with.
Only in high school. Not in the Olympics, FIBA, NCAA, NBA, G League, WNBA, or anywhere basketball is being played.
The funny thing is that basketball is literally the only game where the rules are purposefully written to enhance competitiveness for lesser talented teams. That was the expressed reasoning behind the NFHS opting not to implement the shot clock.
I don't understand what people are scared of ... it's like they know if they take the training wheels off they might fall over.
Those who favor a “street ball” style of play would, of course, love to see a shot clock. Those who prefer strategy and teamwork would, probably, prefer not to add a shot clock. Comparing high school basketball to pick-up games just doesn’t make sense to me. Those are totally different settings.
I don’t really care for losing. I will gameplan a strategy that helps me win. Kids don’t want to play Defense for longer than 1 pass, hell yes they would vote for a shot clock.
Not comparing street balls I’m comparing any basketball anywhere at any level.
High school basketball is the only place anywhere you can run around with the ball and not attempt to put it in the basket.
Perhaps I didn’t express my point clearly.
It takes superior strategy and teamwork to consistently create quality shots and give your team the best chance to win, all while a shot clock is forcing you to operate like a well-oiled machine. Playing keep away or holding the ball does not take a genius tactician of strategy or amazing teamwork. It's a simple strategy to burn clock and you only need two or three decent guards.
dad of current player - would like to see a 45 second, or 50, or 1 minute shot clock. i think it would help the game a lot, and actually lead to better fundamentals.
From my experience I would say the number of games where teams are holding the ball with no intention of scoring is incredibly low. I don't see the need to change rules based on that number of games. I'm talking about allowing teams to run an offense with a lot of good action that eventually leads to a good shot. This art form is lost in college and pro ball due to the shot clock.I would be interested to see some statistics on how many shots are forced up at the end of the shot clock in the college and pro games. Please don't bring that to the high school level. I want to see players understand, and work for, a great shot.
I completely agree, hoops. When the 3-point shot first came in I said I’d rather see an arc right around the basket (which the college and pro game have, but for another purpose), and a shot from in there count as three. That would help teach the meaning of a good shot. I wouldn’t mind seeing that now along with the current 3-point line. Crazy, I know.
NO shot clock - a less talented team can give itself a chance of winning against a more talented team by controlling the tempo of the game and limiting the scoring opportunities.
Iowa had the 3 point line earlier. Coach, 52, against. Even a good delay game requires fundamentals. Why do people keep trying to screw up a good thing.
Don’t you go bringing sound coaching strategy into this thread.
