Class 1 as the Catch-all is way more competitive, a better system.

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Just going off the numbers it appears very obvious that from a competitive standpoint, making Class 1 the catch-all (and not allowing private schools to play in the smallest classification) is best for everyone involved.

History shows us that if you play ball in Class 4 or lower and are in the bottom half of enrollment(unless you're a private school in Class 1), you have virtually no shot of winning a championship

Part (but certainly not all) of the reason for that is the enrollment differential. If you read right under the Class breaks I have included the enrollment differential with Class 1 as the catch-all and then under the current Class 5 catch-all.

Classes 1-4 see the biggest benefit, but you can look at the breakdown for yourself.

Another potential benefit, with Class 1 being considerably more competitive, some of the schools that have gone 8-man may decide to give Class 1 a go, and start refilling the lowest Classification.

Class 6

32 teams - enrollment range of 795 from biggest to smallest adjusted to account for private school inflated numbers.

St. Louis University - 2803
Rockhurst - 2736
Christian Brothers College - 2565
Blue Springs - 2547
Jefferson City - 2500
Hazelwood West - 2268
Marquette - 2223
Joplin - 2216
Lindbergh - 2060
Blue Springs South - 2041
Lee's Summit West - 2037
DeSmet - 2020
Troy Buchanan - 1993
Hazelwood Central - 1966
Ft. Zumwalt West - 1964
Francis Howell - 1947
Francis Howell Central - 1906
Lee's Summit North - 1904
Northwest - 1901
Raymore-Peculiar - 1900
Eureka - 1885
Park Hill - 1877
Lafayette - 1874
Rock Bridge - 1866
Ritenour - 1832
Lee's Summit - 1823
Seckman - 1814
Kickapoo - 1800
McCluer North - 1790
Fox - 1790
Mehlville - 1794
Kirkwood - 1779

Class 5

64 teams, enrollment differential of 638 from largest to smallest.

Timberland - 1778
Francis Howell North - 1773
Liberty - 1767
Liberty North - 1764
Parkway South - 1740
Nixa - 1733
Pattonville - 1727
St. Joseph Central - 1703
Holt - 1662
Hickman - 1660
Vianney - 1634
Ozark - 1632
Waynesville -1627
Springfield Central - 1612
Park Hill South -1605
Truman - 1605
Raytown - 1600
Oakville - 1550
Staley - 1525
Jackson - 1523
Fort Osage - 1503
Chaminade - 1502
Poplar Bluff - 1478
North Kansas City - 1476
Lebanon - 1466
Smith-Cotton - 1466
Ruskin - 1454
Oak Park - 1439
Ft. Zumwalt North - 1437
Branson - 1430
William Chrisman - 1425
Hazelwood East - 1391
Republic - 1389
Battle - 1378
Ft. Zumwalt South - 1370
Glendale - 1361
Carthage - 1356
Belton - 1356
Washington - 1351
Webster Groves - 1351
Parkview -1347
Willard - 1324
Rockwood Summit - 1316
Neosho - 1316
Winnetonka - 1314
Ladue - 1301
Camdenton - 1297
Ft. Zumwalt East - 1276
Rolla - 1273
Parkway West - 1270
Parkway Central - 1263
Liberty (Wentzville) - 1251
Parkway North - 1236
Grandview - 1231
Grain Valley - 1192
McCluer - 1178
Kearney - 1178
Webb City - 1177
McDonald County - 1174
Raytown South - 1168
Gateway - 1148
Farmington - 1143
Riverview Gardens - 1141
Hillsboro - 1140

Class 4

64 teams, Enrollment differential of 491.

With Class 5 as catch-all, the enrollment differential was 1314 (Winnetonka) at the high end and 732 (Northeast KC) at the low for a differential of 681

Platte County - 1106
Cape Central - 1100
West Plains - 1092
Hannibal - 1024
Hillcrest - 1016
Westminster Christian - 1012
Carl Junction - 1006
St. Dominic - 999
Van Horn - 997
DeSoto - 961
Sikeston - 957
Warrenton - 956
Windsor - 949
Marshfield - 940
Warrensburg - 931
St. Mary's - 924
Helias Catholic - 916
Pacific - 910
Union - 908
Clayton - 870
Festus - 870
North County - 897
Harrisonville - 884
MICDS - 874
East (Kansas City) - 843
Smithville - 841
University City - 841
St. Charles - 821
Marshall - 818
Bolivar - 804
Excelsior Springs - 791
St. Francis Borgia - 783
Lafayette (St. Joseph) - 783
Benton - 781
Savannah - 780
Nevada - 777
Affton - 773
Priory - 759
Kirksville - 756
St. Clair - 750
Perryville - 744
Moberly - 735
Northeast (Kansas City) - 732
Potosi - 727
Monett - 710
St. Charles West - 710
Jennings - 708
Logan-Rogersville - 700
Center - 696
Lutheran South - 681
Mexico - 675
Confluence Prep Academy - 671
Normandy - 671
Sullivan - 667
Miller Career Academy - 666
Fulton - 655
Oak Grove - 649
Aurora - 639
Pleasant Hill - 639
Ste. Genevieve - 638
Dexter - 633
Reeds Spring - 621
Vashon - 616
Odessa - 615

Class 3

64 Schools, enrollment differential of 223.

Under current Class 5 catch-all, the largest enrollment is 727 (Potosi) and the smallest is 430 (Blair Oaks) for a differential of 297.

Central Academy of Excellence - 607
Eldon - 605
Lincoln Prep - 604
Salem - 598
Soldan - 593
Owensville - 591
Cassville - 590
Clinton - 590
Chillicothe - 571
Pembroke Hill - 569
St. Pius X (Kansas City) - 555
John Burroughs - 554
Osage - 551
Cameron - 548
Springfield Catholic - 534
Park Hills Central - 531
Kennett - 526
Roosevelt - 518
Fredericktown - 516
McCluer South-Berkeley - 513
Boonville - 512
Orchard Farm - 504
Missouri Military Academy - 503
Southern Boone - 501
Hollister - 491
Bishop DuBourg - 488
Hogan Prep - 480
Mt. Vernon - 475
Southeast - 474
East Newton - 471
Maryville - 470
St. James - 468
O' Fallon Christian - 465
Lift for Life Academy - 462
Buffalo - 458
New Madrid County Central - 457
Richmond - 457
Bayless - 456
Wright City - 454
Lutheran St. Charles - 453
Seneca - 442
Duchesne - 438
Blair Oaks - 430
Macon - 427
Mountain Grove - 425
Ava - 421
Doniphan - 419
Herculaneum - 418
Cuba - 417
California - 416
O'Hara - 412
Forsyth - 409
Centralia - 403
Willow Springs - 402
Winfield - 400
St. Pius X (Festus) - 396
Holden - 396
Father Tolton - 392
Clopton - 388
Warsaw - 388
Lutheran North - 387
Fair Grove - 386
Lamar - 384
Versailles - 384

Class 2

64 schools, enrollment differential of 167.

Under current Class 5 catch-all the largest school is 427 (Macon) and the smallest is 245 (Brentwood) for a differential of 182.
For competitive balance, private schools may not play in the smallest classification and are bumped up.

Carnahan - 383
Lawson - 381
Houston - 380
Hallsville - 377
Montgomery County - 377
North Callaway - 377
Trinity Catholic - 374
Transportation and Law - 370
Bowling Green - 370
Strafford - 360
Sumner - 356
Principia - 356
Trenton - 354
Palmyra - 353
El Dorado Springs - 351
Cardinal Ritter - 347
East Prairie - 342
Summit Christian Academy - 342
Stockton - 339
Grandview - 332
Kelly - 332
Hermann - 328
Mt. View-Liberty - 327
Clever - 324
Lafayette County - 322
Knob Noster - 318
Caruthersville - 316
Highland - 307
Butler - 300
Brookfield - 298
Lathrop - 297
Malden - 296
Clark County - 294
Jefferson - 292
Cole Camp - 280
Charleston - 273
Carrollton - 273
Lexington - 270
Cleveland NJROTC - 269
St. Paul Lutheran (Concordia) - 265
University Academy Charter - 265
Bishop LeBlond - 262
South Callaway - 262
Diamond - 261
Sherwood - 260
Brentwood - 245
Monroe City - 244
Portageville - 244
South Harrison - 243
East Buchanan - 240
Penney - 239
Cabool - 236
Ash Grove - 234
Mark Twain - 233
Plattsburg - 229
Sarcoxie - 227
Mid-Buchanan - 226
Scott City - 226
Adrian - 224
Tipton - 219
South Shelby - 217
Marionville - 216
St. Vincent - 194
Valle Catholic - 162

Class 1

46 schools, enrollment differential of 112.

Under current Class 5 catch-all the largest school is 244 (Monroe City) and the smallest is 102 (Drexel) for a differential of 142.

Windsor - 214
Putnam County - 213
Hayti - 211
Pleasant Hope - 211
Skyline - 209
Louisiana - 206
North Platte - 206
Milan - 205
Westran - 205
Marceline - 199
Pierce City - 198
Crest Ridge - 195
Thayer - 195
Gallatin - 194
Fayette - 192
Lone Jack - 191
Scotland County - 190
Archie -188
Chaffee - 188
Schuyler County - 188
Miller - 176
Maysville - 174
West Platte - 170
Osceola - 168
Salisbury - 168
Crystal City - 167
Harrisburg - 167
Van-Far - 164
Knox County - 162
Midway - 159
Lincoln - 151
Liberal - 148
Jasper - 144
Lockwood - 144
Polo - 139
Paris - 136
Concordia - 134
Wellington-Napoleon - 134
Rich Hill - 133
Appleton City - 131
Princeton - 127
Santa Fe - 126
Slater - 119
Sweet Springs - 116
Orrick - 109
Drexel - 102

 

[freezeoption]

orrick is going 8 man

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

orrick is going 8 man

And maybe they wouldn't if they knew that they weren't at such a steep competitive disadvantage. Like I said, several larger 8-man teams may consider giving 11 man a go under this setup.

Any thoughts on the proposal?

 

[revno]

I love it. Please, make this happen.

 

[freezeoption]

I also heard a while back that Kelly was dropping football

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

I also heard a while back that Kelly was dropping football

They just got it 2 years ago. Seems a bit premature if they are. Either way doesn't really change much.

What do you think of the proposal instead of nitpicking what teams may or may not be dropping?

 

[sw5890]

I usually look at these threads and wonder what is the point of tinkering with the classification scheme but that actually looks pretty legit!

 

[kaching]

Why would private schools in the smallest class be bumped up?

 

[freezeoption]

I'm not trying to nit pick, but if schools drop then there will be movement. no matter what the class is people will crab, it looks good, but I don't think it is going to matter

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

I'm not trying to nit pick, but if schools drop then there will be movement. no matter what the class is people will crab, it looks good, but I don't think it is going to matter

It's a difference of 2 schools. Would literally just move Windsor up to Class 2 and leave Class 1 with 44 teams instead of 46.

All it takes is the right person to see it and realize that it is better from a competition standpoint. People have griped for years about championship blowouts, you would (should) eliminate a lot of that.

I'm looking for potential issues beyond teams dropping football. That happens and creates some movement, but who cares? Doesn't change the big picture.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Why would private schools in the smallest class be bumped up?

If the point of this exercise is competitive balance (or as close to it as you can get without completely watering things down) and you're leaving Class 1 with 44-46 schools in it, you have to remove private schools from the lowest Classification.

For several reasons.

1. It only affects 2 private schools (Valle and St. Vincent) who draw kids from large towns with Class 4 Enrollment (If you combine the enrollment of Ste Gen + Valle and Perryville + St. Vincent they both equal Class 4 population. It isn't equitable for Class 1 schools drawing Class 4 talent to be playing Drexel, Sweet Springs, Slater, etc. who are "actual" small schools and only play with the kids that live in the district.

2. The multiplier exists for a reason, there is no good reason for a private school to play in the lowest class.

3. Both schools regularly have 35-50 kids on their sidelines, they aren't hurting for numbers.

4. Unpopular opinion, private schools play by different rules than public.

I didn't/don't want to get into a public/private debate. I think it is a reasonable accommodation, if you disagree, simply flip it so Valle and St. Vincent are in Class 1, move Windsor and Putnam County in Class 2.

But by doing that you're basically giving Valle a championship every single year and defeating the purpose of making every Class competitive. JMO.

 

[Kenny56]

I'm pretty sure Ste. Gen. would remain class 3 if you added Valle's enrollment to ours....Pretty sure.

Under the current system that is....

 

[FootballCoach8]

I would love this.

 

[kaching]

I do like your proposal in that it creates less difference between the highest and lowest schools in each class. I doubt if it would be feasible to automatically bump up the two private schools in class 1. I imagine those schools that are at the top of the class would be enthusiastic about the proposal. Those schools who find themselves at the bottom of a class - not so much!

 

[MIZ...ZOU]

put 48 in class 6 and 5 and I am sold. I've never understood why class 6 has 32? Take it to 48 is only the difference between 1770 and 1620.

 

[Duck_walk]

Interesting proposal. FYI. I don't think Bayless has a football team and they are listed.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

I'm pretty sure Ste. Gen. would remain class 3 if you added Valle's enrollment to ours....Pretty sure.

Under the current system that is....

Ste Gen enrollment 638
Valle actual enrollment 125

Combined enrollment 763.

Smallest current Class 4 Enrollment is 732, so yes, combined Ste Gen and Valle are a Class 4 talent pool.

Not really the overarching point, but the reasoning for Valle being in Class 2.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Interesting proposal. FYI. I don't think Bayless has a football team and they are listed.

Unless something has changed they begin Varsity play in 2018.

 

[mizzoutiger13]

I really like this. Especially class 5, but I'm probably biased because a lot of those big games, Webb-Carthage, Carthage/Webb vs Springfield area schools are in my viewing area. Plus the chance to see schools like Staley and Fort Osage potentially match up with Webb or Carthage in the playoffs.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

I do like your proposal in that it creates less difference between the highest and lowest schools in each class. I doubt if it would be feasible to automatically bump up the two private schools in class 1. I imagine those schools that are at the top of the class would be enthusiastic about the proposal. Those schools who find themselves at the bottom of a class - not so much!

Me too, if it were up to me I would have the schools actually affected (Class 1) vote on it and if the majority decide they are ok with private schools in Class 1, then they can stay.

 

[Duck_walk]

Unless something has changed they begin Varsity play in 2018.

Wow. Didn't know that. Thx.

 

[wannabecoach68]

Looks like a reasonable proposition! Has anyone suggested this to MSHSAA or emailed them the above "rough draft"?

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Wow. Didn't know that. Thx.

No problem.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

put 48 in class 6 and 5 and I am sold. I've never understood why class 6 has 32? Take it to 48 is only the difference between 1770 and 1620.

Could definitely work. Have eight 6-team districts and reduces the enrollment differential even more (for Class 5)

Class 6, District 1

Eight 6-team districts

Eureka
Fox
Lindbergh
Mehlville
Northwest
Seckman

Class 5, District 1

Eight 6-team districts

Jackson
Oakville
Poplar Bluff
Rockwood Summit
Farmington
Hillsboro

Class 4, District 1

Eight 8-team districts

Cape Central
DeSoto
Sikeston
North County
Perryville
Potosi
Ste Genevieve
Dexter

Class 3, District 1

Eight 8-team districts

Park Hills Central
Kennett
Fredericktown
New Madrid
Doniphan
St. Pius (Festus)
Herculaneum
DuBourg

Class 2, District 1

Eight 8-team districts

East Prairie
Kelly
Caruthersville
Malden
Charleston
Portageville
St. Vincent
Valle Catholic

Class 1, District 1

Six 6-team districts, Two 5-team districts

Hayti
Louisiana
Thayer
Chaffee
Crystal City

 

[kaching]

Me too, if it were up to me I would have the schools actually affected (Class 1) vote on it and if the majority decide they are ok with private schools in Class 1, then they can stay.

If there would be a vote on it you'd have to include class 2 schools as it would effect them too. I guess my thought on it is if you bump up private schools in class 1 (because of Valle) you'd have to bump up all private schools a class - and that ain't going to happen...

 

[MOFB]

I believe what is going to be on ballot this spring is keep 32 in class 6 and then divide the remaining 5 classes in equal numbers.

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

If there would be a vote on it you'd have to include class 2 schools as it would effect them too. I guess my thought on it is if you bump up private schools in class 1 (because of Valle) you'd have to bump up all private schools a class - and that ain't going to happen...

Why?

Just amend it in such a way that private schools can't play in the smallest class.

It doesn't have to affect any other private school, the multiplier already affects them.

 

[O line wins games]

Why?

Just amend it in such a way that private schools can't play in the smallest class.

It doesn't have to affect any other private school, the multiplier already affects them.

That's why it would be a no go. Not saying I disagree with your thought on it, but that would be a fair argument for them. What's the multiplier for if when it doesn't affect a school enough, you add on too it.

 

[Veer2Eternity]

Ste Gen enrollment 638
Valle actual enrollment 125

Combined enrollment 763.

Smallest current Class 4 Enrollment is 732, so yes, combined Ste Gen and Valle are a Class 4 talent pool.

Not really the overarching point, but the reasoning for Valle being in Class 2.

Kenny when i say valle pulls from a class 4 talent pool don't you think I did the math first?

 

[JNreturns]

No, let's keep it the same and have Class 4 Kirksville (756) play Class 4 Parkway North (1236), because THAT makes sense. A differential of 480. A proportional differential of 63%. So apply that to Kearney...they should be playing Blue Springs South, Lee's Summit West.

 

[OutlawJoseyWhales]

orrick is going 8 man

For sure? I heard they were going to vote and then did not vote....?

 

[Mowestdad]

I got it from what I think is a good source, Orrick will be going to 8-man in the 2018 season.

 

[OutlawJoseyWhales]

I got it from what I think is a good source, Orrick will be going to 8-man in the 2018 season.

Sorry, I was thinking Osceola, not Orrick. My bad!!

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

That's why it would be a no go. Not saying I disagree with your thought on it, but that would be a fair argument for them. What's the multiplier for if when it doesn't affect a school enough, you add on too it.

It's really as simple as stating "No private school can play in the smallest classification". Multiplier doesn't change.

That doesn't affect any other school. Just 2 who are currently in Class 1.

 

[panther72]

Sorry, I was thinking Osceola, not Orrick. My bad!!

I think Osceola may also be in the mix of dropping to 8-man in the near future.

 

[Scout 4u]

And maybe they wouldn't if they knew that they weren't at such a steep competitive disadvantage. Like I said, several larger 8-man teams may consider giving 11 man a go under this setup. Any thoughts on the proposal?

You obviously put a lot of thought into this.
I like it as well, good job.

 

[LombardiHalas]

Just going off the numbers it appears very obvious that from a competitive standpoint, making Class 1 the catch-all (and not allowing private schools to play in the smallest classification) is best for everyone involved.

History shows us that if you play ball in Class 4 or lower and are in the bottom half of enrollment(unless you're a private school in Class 1), you have virtually no shot of winning a championship

Part (but certainly not all) of the reason for that is the enrollment differential. If you read right under the Class breaks I have included the enrollment differential with Class 1 as the catch-all and then under the current Class 5 catch-all.

Classes 1-4 see the biggest benefit, but you can look at the breakdown for yourself.

Another potential benefit, with Class 1 being considerably more competitive, some of the schools that have gone 8-man may decide to give Class 1 a go, and start refilling the lowest Classification.

Class 6

32 teams - enrollment range of 795 from biggest to smallest adjusted to account for private school inflated numbers.

St. Louis University - 2803
Rockhurst - 2736
Christian Brothers College - 2565
Blue Springs - 2547
Jefferson City - 2500
Hazelwood West - 2268
Marquette - 2223
Joplin - 2216
Lindbergh - 2060
Blue Springs South - 2041
Lee's Summit West - 2037
DeSmet - 2020
Troy Buchanan - 1993
Hazelwood Central - 1966
Ft. Zumwalt West - 1964
Francis Howell - 1947
Francis Howell Central - 1906
Lee's Summit North - 1904
Northwest - 1901
Raymore-Peculiar - 1900
Eureka - 1885
Park Hill - 1877
Lafayette - 1874
Rock Bridge - 1866
Ritenour - 1832
Lee's Summit - 1823
Seckman - 1814
Kickapoo - 1800
McCluer North - 1790
Fox - 1790
Mehlville - 1794
Kirkwood - 1779

Class 5

64 teams, enrollment differential of 638 from largest to smallest.

Timberland - 1778
Francis Howell North - 1773
Liberty - 1767
Liberty North - 1764
Parkway South - 1740
Nixa - 1733
Pattonville - 1727
St. Joseph Central - 1703
Holt - 1662
Hickman - 1660
Vianney - 1634
Ozark - 1632
Waynesville -1627
Springfield Central - 1612
Park Hill South -1605
Truman - 1605
Raytown - 1600
Oakville - 1550
Staley - 1525
Jackson - 1523
Fort Osage - 1503
Chaminade - 1502
Poplar Bluff - 1478
North Kansas City - 1476
Lebanon - 1466
Smith-Cotton - 1466
Ruskin - 1454
Oak Park - 1439
Ft. Zumwalt North - 1437
Branson - 1430
William Chrisman - 1425
Hazelwood East - 1391
Republic - 1389
Battle - 1378
Ft. Zumwalt South - 1370
Glendale - 1361
Carthage - 1356
Belton - 1356
Washington - 1351
Webster Groves - 1351
Parkview -1347
Willard - 1324
Rockwood Summit - 1316
Neosho - 1316
Winnetonka - 1314
Ladue - 1301
Camdenton - 1297
Ft. Zumwalt East - 1276
Rolla - 1273
Parkway West - 1270
Parkway Central - 1263
Liberty (Wentzville) - 1251
Parkway North - 1236
Grandview - 1231
Grain Valley - 1192
McCluer - 1178
Kearney - 1178
Webb City - 1177
McDonald County - 1174
Raytown South - 1168
Gateway - 1148
Farmington - 1143
Riverview Gardens - 1141
Hillsboro - 1140

Class 4

64 teams, Enrollment differential of 491.

With Class 5 as catch-all, the enrollment differential was 1314 (Winnetonka) at the high end and 732 (Northeast KC) at the low for a differential of 681

Platte County - 1106
Cape Central - 1100
West Plains - 1092
Hannibal - 1024
Hillcrest - 1016
Westminster Christian - 1012
Carl Junction - 1006
St. Dominic - 999
Van Horn - 997
DeSoto - 961
Sikeston - 957
Warrenton - 956
Windsor - 949
Marshfield - 940
Warrensburg - 931
St. Mary's - 924
Helias Catholic - 916
Pacific - 910
Union - 908
Clayton - 870
Festus - 870
North County - 897
Harrisonville - 884
MICDS - 874
East (Kansas City) - 843
Smithville - 841
University City - 841
St. Charles - 821
Marshall - 818
Bolivar - 804
Excelsior Springs - 791
St. Francis Borgia - 783
Lafayette (St. Joseph) - 783
Benton - 781
Savannah - 780
Nevada - 777
Affton - 773
Priory - 759
Kirksville - 756
St. Clair - 750
Perryville - 744
Moberly - 735
Northeast (Kansas City) - 732
Potosi - 727
Monett - 710
St. Charles West - 710
Jennings - 708
Logan-Rogersville - 700
Center - 696
Lutheran South - 681
Mexico - 675
Confluence Prep Academy - 671
Normandy - 671
Sullivan - 667
Miller Career Academy - 666
Fulton - 655
Oak Grove - 649
Aurora - 639
Pleasant Hill - 639
Ste. Genevieve - 638
Dexter - 633
Reeds Spring - 621
Vashon - 616
Odessa - 615

Class 3

64 Schools, enrollment differential of 223.

Under current Class 5 catch-all, the largest enrollment is 727 (Potosi) and the smallest is 430 (Blair Oaks) for a differential of 297.

Central Academy of Excellence - 607
Eldon - 605
Lincoln Prep - 604
Salem - 598
Soldan - 593
Owensville - 591
Cassville - 590
Clinton - 590
Chillicothe - 571
Pembroke Hill - 569
St. Pius X (Kansas City) - 555
John Burroughs - 554
Osage - 551
Cameron - 548
Springfield Catholic - 534
Park Hills Central - 531
Kennett - 526
Roosevelt - 518
Fredericktown - 516
McCluer South-Berkeley - 513
Boonville - 512
Orchard Farm - 504
Missouri Military Academy - 503
Southern Boone - 501
Hollister - 491
Bishop DuBourg - 488
Hogan Prep - 480
Mt. Vernon - 475
Southeast - 474
East Newton - 471
Maryville - 470
St. James - 468
O' Fallon Christian - 465
Lift for Life Academy - 462
Buffalo - 458
New Madrid County Central - 457
Richmond - 457
Bayless - 456
Wright City - 454
Lutheran St. Charles - 453
Seneca - 442
Duchesne - 438
Blair Oaks - 430
Macon - 427
Mountain Grove - 425
Ava - 421
Doniphan - 419
Herculaneum - 418
Cuba - 417
California - 416
O'Hara - 412
Forsyth - 409
Centralia - 403
Willow Springs - 402
Winfield - 400
St. Pius X (Festus) - 396
Holden - 396
Father Tolton - 392
Clopton - 388
Warsaw - 388
Lutheran North - 387
Fair Grove - 386
Lamar - 384
Versailles - 384

Class 2

64 schools, enrollment differential of 167.

Under current Class 5 catch-all the largest school is 427 (Macon) and the smallest is 245 (Brentwood) for a differential of 182.
For competitive balance, private schools may not play in the smallest classification and are bumped up.

Carnahan - 383
Lawson - 381
Houston - 380
Hallsville - 377
Montgomery County - 377
North Callaway - 377
Trinity Catholic - 374
Transportation and Law - 370
Bowling Green - 370
Strafford - 360
Sumner - 356
Principia - 356
Trenton - 354
Palmyra - 353
El Dorado Springs - 351
Cardinal Ritter - 347
East Prairie - 342
Summit Christian Academy - 342
Stockton - 339
Grandview - 332
Kelly - 332
Hermann - 328
Mt. View-Liberty - 327
Clever - 324
Lafayette County - 322
Knob Noster - 318
Caruthersville - 316
Highland - 307
Butler - 300
Brookfield - 298
Lathrop - 297
Malden - 296
Clark County - 294
Jefferson - 292
Cole Camp - 280
Charleston - 273
Carrollton - 273
Lexington - 270
Cleveland NJROTC - 269
St. Paul Lutheran (Concordia) - 265
University Academy Charter - 265
Bishop LeBlond - 262
South Callaway - 262
Diamond - 261
Sherwood - 260
Brentwood - 245
Monroe City - 244
Portageville - 244
South Harrison - 243
East Buchanan - 240
Penney - 239
Cabool - 236
Ash Grove - 234
Mark Twain - 233
Plattsburg - 229
Sarcoxie - 227
Mid-Buchanan - 226
Scott City - 226
Adrian - 224
Tipton - 219
South Shelby - 217
Marionville - 216
St. Vincent - 194
Valle Catholic - 162

Class 1

46 schools, enrollment differential of 112.

Under current Class 5 catch-all the largest school is 244 (Monroe City) and the smallest is 102 (Drexel) for a differential of 142.

Windsor - 214
Putnam County - 213
Hayti - 211
Pleasant Hope - 211
Skyline - 209
Louisiana - 206
North Platte - 206
Milan - 205
Westran - 205
Marceline - 199
Pierce City - 198
Crest Ridge - 195
Thayer - 195
Gallatin - 194
Fayette - 192
Lone Jack - 191
Scotland County - 190
Archie -188
Chaffee - 188
Schuyler County - 188
Miller - 176
Maysville - 174
West Platte - 170
Osceola - 168
Salisbury - 168
Crystal City - 167
Harrisburg - 167
Van-Far - 164
Knox County - 162
Midway - 159
Lincoln - 151
Liberal - 148
Jasper - 144
Lockwood - 144
Polo - 139
Paris - 136
Concordia - 134
Wellington-Napoleon - 134
Rich Hill - 133
Appleton City - 131
Princeton - 127
Santa Fe - 126
Slater - 119
Sweet Springs - 116
Orrick - 109
Drexel - 102

i like it

 

[LombardiHalas]

Orrick is 100% moving to 8-man

 

[Rufus R. Jones]

If the point of this exercise is competitive balance (or as close to it as you can get without completely watering things down) and you're leaving Class 1 with 44-46 schools in it, you have to remove private schools from the lowest Classification.

For several reasons.

1. It only affects 2 private schools (Valle and St. Vincent) who draw kids from large towns with Class 4 Enrollment (If you combine the enrollment of Ste Gen + Valle and Perryville + St. Vincent they both equal Class 4 population. It isn't equitable for Class 1 schools drawing Class 4 talent to be playing Drexel, Sweet Springs, Slater, etc. who are "actual" small schools and only play with the kids that live in the district.

2. The multiplier exists for a reason, there is no good reason for a private school to play in the lowest class.

3. Both schools regularly have 35-50 kids on their sidelines, they aren't hurting for numbers.

4. Unpopular opinion, private schools play by different rules than public.

I didn't/don't want to get into a public/private debate. I think it is a reasonable accommodation, if you disagree, simply flip it so Valle and St. Vincent are in Class 1, move Windsor and Putnam County in Class 2.

But by doing that you're basically giving Valle a championship every single year and defeating the purpose of making every Class competitive. JMO.

Flimsy

 

[Gubba Bump Shrimp]

Flimsy

Elaborate.