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Bama- junk resume but passes the eye test. Only loss at auburn.
tOSU- got blown out by Freaking iowa
Usc- lost at wazoo and nd. Lots of other close calls
tOSU- got blown out by Freaking iowa
Usc- lost at wazoo and nd. Lots of other close calls
Obviously Ohio St earned the 4th spot with that win last night. Bama will be outside looking in at the 5 spot. Notre Dame shouldn't even be talked about in this situation. Coming from a ND Fan.
How do you figure? USC is a 2 loss conference champ with only one bad loss. OSU was blown out twice.
I'm just posting my opinion, and I can almost guarantee the committee is going to do the same and go with them too. USC got it handed to them by a Notre Dame team who hasn't had a very good second half of the season. Also Ohio St won the Big 10. Which just my opinion was a stronger conference than the PAC 12. I'm not saying you don't have an argument. At the end of the day that won't matter. Ohio St gets the 4th spot.
16 would be perfect. Just going to take a few years to get there. The way its looking right now. This will be the second time since the 4 team play off started that there will be teams left out that had a strong case to get in.
I think you go with 8....Conference champs and 3 wildcards
Albama just doesn't have those Big Wins like they did in the past years. I wouldn't call LSU, Fresno, and Miss St. Big wins.
Maybe don't schedule a Mercer at the end of the season and we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Alabama did not even play for their Conference Championship.... shouldn't even be considered for the National Champinship.
ND I'm guessing that was a joke putting them in the poll.
OSU conference champ but 2 horrible losses....
I say we play a Round Robin with the 3 top teams....
ND I'm guessing that was a joke putting them in the poll.
OSU conference champ but 2 horrible losses....
I say we play a Round Robin with the 3 top teams....
They showed it on ESPN. Their SOS was something like 12th in the country. OSU and Bama's were far worse.
Yes. And OSU got smashed by Iowa.
Nobody smashed Bama. So they are in.
Thats interesting...a google search for end of season SOS shows Bama and OSU well above USC (highest I saw them ranked was 22nd)
FWIW, according to ESPNs FPI...
1. Bama
2. OSU
14. USC
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I think someone at espn posted incorrect numbers. SOR and SOS, OSU and Bama are higher than USC for sure online. But Bama's schedule really isnt impressive to me. A lot of their opponents had disappointing years.
I agree with you. Their best win was against FPI #17 LSU, #19 Miss ST, and FSU #20....in comparison, Iowa was #24.....
That said....I don't think Georgia is all they are made out to be and despite their resume being a bit dull this year I believe Bama is either the first or second best team with Clemson....
Sorry. That was 100% sarcasm aimed at those people and those voters.
An 8 team field always made sense to me. When it was just two teams there were almost always arguments about a third team. With only four teams, it's no surprise that there will be a fifth team left out that seems as good as #3 or #4. But it seems quite doubtful that anybody would ever argue that the #9 team got cheated and would've proved themselves the best had they just been let in to the 8 team field.
Six bowl games would feature the first round matchups and the semifinals. Ratings would be sky-high. Play them on a Friday and Saturday just before Christmas and then the semis on New Years Day. Then the final game falls on the Monday night near January 8 or so every year.
This year:
Friday, Dec 22
Peach Bowl - Atlanta
#1 Clemson (12-1) vs #8 Central Florida (12-0)
Orange Bowl - Miami
#2 Oklahoma (12-1) vs #7 USC (11-2)
Saturday, Dec 23
Fiesta Bowl - Glendale
#3 Georgia (12-1) vs #6 Wisconsin (12-1)
Cotton Bowl - Dallas
#4 Alabama (11-1) vs #5 Ohio State (11-2)
Monday, January 1 semi-finals
Sugar Bowl, New Orleans
Rose Bowl, Pasadena
Monday, January 8 - championship
That looks like one helluva tournament to me.
Six bowl games would feature the first round matchups and the semifinals. Ratings would be sky-high. Play them on a Friday and Saturday just before Christmas and then the semis on New Years Day. Then the final game falls on the Monday night near January 8 or so every year.
This year:
Friday, Dec 22
Peach Bowl - Atlanta
#1 Clemson (12-1) vs #8 Central Florida (12-0)
Orange Bowl - Miami
#2 Oklahoma (12-1) vs #7 USC (11-2)
Saturday, Dec 23
Fiesta Bowl - Glendale
#3 Georgia (12-1) vs #6 Wisconsin (12-1)
Cotton Bowl - Dallas
#4 Alabama (11-1) vs #5 Ohio State (11-2)
Monday, January 1 semi-finals
Sugar Bowl, New Orleans
Rose Bowl, Pasadena
Monday, January 8 - championship
That looks like one helluva tournament to me.
committee chose correctly,bama over osu. conf champ shouldnt matter,didnt last year and two years prior. pick the best 4. hopefully this starts a change toward 8 team playoff. five p5 champs get in,3 at large bids.
I don't think people believe Georgia is one of the top 4 teams....but conference champs do and should matter because it means they play 1 more game against a (most likely) top 10 team.
All that said...Bama was the right pick. 1 loss team vs a 2 loss in this specific scenario meant something even if it means 2 teams from the same conference
i havent heard one person say georgia isnt a playoff team besides yourself. no problem everyone is entitled to their opinion. a one loss p5 team who just beat a very good auburn team who just beat bama in the iron bowl. a bama team who is the 4 seed. conference champs didnt matter to the committee this year or last year. its the best 4 teams regardless of conference titles. regarding the games they are very hard picks,i think clemson eeks out a win vs bama. ou and gawja are both damn good. i think the bulldogs will put more talent on the field but mayfield is a beast. i think well see an acc vs sec final.
Im not saying Georgia shouldn't be in the playoff....Im saying I don't believe they are 1 of the top 4 schools. But like you said....thats just my opinion and a few people that I have talked to whose opinion also means nothing. The same Auburn team that beat Bama wasn't on the field yesterday....its amazing what a week does and revenge games are a struggle.
I also think it should be the best 4 teams...but its more complicated than that. A conference title effects who the committee considers "best" regardless of what we think. OSU is FPI #2....Georgia is #5, but I certainly don't think OSU should be in front of UGA. But I think we are beating a dead horse....
I like the match ups....should be an entertaining bowl season
I think the committee selected the 4 best teams. On the face it would appear a bad loss is given more weight than "quality" wins. However, anyone else think that maybe the committee members were sitting there discussing "Are we really going to pit the OSU against Clemson? Do we want another playoff blowout?" I think in the end they may have just determined Alabama and Clemson will be a more competitive game and gave the Tide the nod.
I mentioned this to someone I was talking to. The committee took a lot of flak last year for putting OSU in over Penn State then got blown out by Clemson. However, that should not factor in at all, IMO....but Im sure it did.
Ohio State had 3 quality wins better than Bama's best win....but their loss to Iowa was very bad, so I agree that a bad loss is more heavily weighted than quality wins. I still don't think they selected the 4 best teams...but the 4 right teams.
Ohio St. lost to #7 in the Big Ten by 31 points... Alabama lost to #6 in the Nation Auburn by 6 points. It is a no brainer.
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The NAIA used to do 8 teams in the 70s and into the very early 80s. It was perfect. A #8 in Division I is fully capable of upsetting a #1. Not likely, but good games likely.
Agreed. And I don't have a problem autobidding in a non power 5 team if they go undefeated like UCF as a 6th team.
Of the 4 teams included, Clemson was the one that looked like they didn't belong.......but they did belong. Needs to be expanded to at least 8.
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