CBS News story about Maplewood RH (and the future of HS FB)
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Mits Maplewood sacked the program back in June long before any deaths or the current news of how dangerous the sport was. It was because of lack of interest. This is just the media creating a story were there isn't one for their own propaganda and you are blindly following it. The story below was written back on June the 11th they only had 5-12 boys interested in football. Sounds like to me the boys didn't want to play football long before anything else and now Maplewood is just spinning to look like all these deaths are the reason.
http://fox2now.com/2015/06/11/football-program-going-on-hiatus-at-maplewood-richmond-heights-hs/
http://www.ksdk.com/story/sports/hi...wood-richmond-heights-axes-football/71073944/
http://fox2now.com/2015/06/11/football-program-going-on-hiatus-at-maplewood-richmond-heights-hs/
http://www.ksdk.com/story/sports/hi...wood-richmond-heights-axes-football/71073944/
I am tired of the media trying to kill football. I'm also tired of the media and tv networks trying to push that Euro-trash game soccer on America.
JoeyNorthlandoKCMO
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What happened to Maplewood? They had tremendous success just a few years ago. How can they go to state runner ups to only 5-12 kids out for football? And yes keep that crap soccer away. I cant help but laugh when I watch soccer games. Every injury is the end of the world, players writhing in pain, then suddenly its all ok and they are running at full speed. All in a lame attempt to draw a yellow or red card. Speaking of which, what are we playing here, soccer or poker? Are the officials called dealers in soccer?
What makes you say that I'm blindly following it??? I just posted the link, I gave no opinions (and I saw the original story back in June right here on MoSports...)
Sorry thought you were one who said you did not want your child playing football.
The last time I was on a staff coaching at Maplewood their coach was heard by our staff telling their players loud and clear before the game that they were much better coached than our squad. That was the coach with the same name as a former president. Then they had something like 12 personal foul penalties in the first half and the principal had to enter their locker room at the half to tell them to cut the crap. That coach quit prior to the next season and when we faced them at home that season their numbers were way, way down.
It had nothing to do with injuries. That's drama by the writer.
It had nothing to do with injuries. That's drama by the writer.
They were given the death penalty for recruiting violations after the loss in the championship game!
So wait. The head coach at Maplewood was telling the Maplewood players they were better coached than the opposite team? I don't see the correlation between the coaching quitting the numbers going down. It sounds like that coach leaving should have been a good thing.
Not I; my ten year old has played for the Rogersville mighty mites for three years now.
Agree with all of the above except the part about the "Euro-trash" game of soccer.
Yes it's boring, to long, pointless and uses valuable practice field space reserved for the girls pep squad but...
Where do you think football teams get their great kickers from?
No, not tennis.
I doubt you ever went to a maplewood game but u dont know how close to the truth u were. When we played up there in 10 it was all black kids aside from 1... The vast majority of the fans were white. Coach/recruiter gets the axe those boys go to another school
Agreed, the media is doing everything to sensationalize the dangers of football. I can't wait until Will Smiths movie "Concussion" is relased. I hate hollywood. I'm quite sure the movie will win awards and be highly acclaimed.
I hate the media stories about NFL players that have chosen not to play football or quit because they might get a concussion. Any kid that plays football, accused of rapes, being a thief or bullying or caught farting at the mall is never a band member or 11th grader, he is headlined as football player.
My friend say's once the influence of the leftist media takes over, the south will be the last region that has football. Sort of like Lacrosse on the east coast. Lacrosse is played in the east and not in the midwest or the south.Of course, I hope he is wrong.
If you made a movie about fighting for equal rights for a transgender school it would win Oscars too. I wish they'd make a movie about the pussification of America. But nobody would probably understand it, call it barbaric and homophobic.
I hate the media stories about NFL players that have chosen not to play football or quit because they might get a concussion. Any kid that plays football, accused of rapes, being a thief or bullying or caught farting at the mall is never a band member or 11th grader, he is headlined as football player.
My friend say's once the influence of the leftist media takes over, the south will be the last region that has football. Sort of like Lacrosse on the east coast. Lacrosse is played in the east and not in the midwest or the south.Of course, I hope he is wrong.
If you made a movie about fighting for equal rights for a transgender school it would win Oscars too. I wish they'd make a movie about the pussification of America. But nobody would probably understand it, call it barbaric and homophobic.
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So where do you think they were recruited from? And where did they transfer to when the coach left?
I gotta hear this.
Idk but after playin them 2 years in a row and seeing the crowd and the team thats my conclusion. How else does a program that made a title game and a semifinal back to back with 50-60 to closing the program from lack of participation after the coach got fired
I think we are going to see more and more schools shuttering their football programs due to student apathy. Some will switch to 8-man as a "Last Rites" measure to try to salvage their programs.
I'm not a big soccer fan, but it is a team sport, it requires a minimal amount of equipment, and it has cult following among many. Also, as any athletic director will quickly point out, it is a game for both boys and girls. Anytime you can get double use of facilities and staff with an activity, it is going to have a lot of administrative support.
I'm not a big soccer fan, but it is a team sport, it requires a minimal amount of equipment, and it has cult following among many. Also, as any athletic director will quickly point out, it is a game for both boys and girls. Anytime you can get double use of facilities and staff with an activity, it is going to have a lot of administrative support.
Certainly the media is trying to shape some facts to fit the narrative of their story but there is several reasons why football is in some danger long term of losing a lot of participation.
There are of course a lot of concerns about effects of head injuries and while IMO the sport has made a lot of strides to address this it also stands to reason that more parents/ students opt to play other sports.
Over time I think costs of proper equipment and insurance costs are going to be tough for some school districts to maintain.
On top of that unless you grow up in a community that is football crazy there are a myriad of other options today.
In Missouri I don't think there will be a direct impact on the bigger schools and the smaller schools that really support football but you will see indirect impacts as smaller school districts drop to 8- man or drop football entirely.
I believe that just since last cycle we are down a couple class 2 schools and 1-2 class 1 schools went to 8- man.
They made a title game because that side of the bracket was embarrassingly weak. Same reason a lot of St. Louis area schools make title games.
A cult Following maybe in some areas but not around here, at best the sport is a money vacuum not unlike a lot of other sports in schools. Monett has a soccer team that is 13-3 this week they played another team that had only two loses and when talking to the coach he said it had district seeding implications for who possible would be the number one seed so it was a pretty big game I would think. But when you looked up in the stands I don't think there were 20 paying fans in the stands. I know concession we lost money just being open and not one soccer parent volunteered I am not even sure we have any on the booster club? And the soccer team would not be playing on turf and Burl Fowler stadium if it was not for the football fans and their support who helped put in the turf. I don't think one dime of any of the money donated came from a soccer fan or parent? Now that is not to say I would want to close up the soccer program, just saying I think it would be tough for a school to build a soccer field from scratch with no football team or big donors helping to support it. If a football field cost 2 million to build from scratch I would think it would be equally expensive for a soccer field maybe less because you would have to have as large of stands? Also I think our booster club makes more money in the 5 home football games from concession then they make probable all other sports combined which helps support and purchase a lot of the equipment that other programs need.
So yes you are right if you can get double usage out of a facilities it makes since. But what happens when the Friday night lights go dime and those big donors dry up? Will an AD love the sport then and will soccer fans step up and donate the million dollars it cost to turf a field?
Why Football Matters, By John Harbaugh
Posted Apr 22, 2015
By John Harbaugh
Football is under attack, but the game and the values it instills in young men are critical to our society.
The game of football is under attack.
We see it every day in the headlines and on the news. The medical concerns are pressing. The game has taken its share of criticism. President Barack Obama said that if he had boys he wouldn’t let them play football. Even LeBron James has publicly said no football in his house.
The question is asked over and over: Why would anyone want to play football? And why would anyone let their kids play?
Here’s my answer: I believe there’s practically no other place where a young man is held to a higher standard.
Football is hard. It’s tough. It demands discipline. It teaches obedience. It builds character.
Football is a metaphor for life.
This game asks a young man to push himself further than he ever thought he could go. It literally challenges his physical courage. It shows him what it means to sacrifice. It teaches him the importance of doing his job well. We learn to put others first, to be part of something bigger than ourselves. And we learn to lift our teammates – and ourselves – up together.
These are rare lessons nowadays.
Football has faced challenges like this before.
In 1905, there were 19 player deaths and at least 137 serious injuries. Many of these occurred at the high school and college levels. Major colleges said they were going to drop football because the game had become too violent.
That’s when President Teddy Roosevelt stepped in to call a meeting with coaches and athletic advisers from Harvard, Princeton and Yale. He wanted to find a way to make the game safer. They made significant changes, introducing new rules like the forward pass and the wide receiver position. Those changes turned football more into the game we know it as today.
We made progress. Rules changed. Society evolved. The game advanced.
We’re at another turning point in our sport. The concussion issue is real and we have to face it.
We have to continue to get players in better helmets. We have to teach tackling the right way, and that starts at the NFL level. Change the rules. Take certain things out of the game. It’s all the right thing to do.
But even with all of that, the importance of football hasn’t changed. In some ways, it’s more important than ever.
And I believe the most critical place for football is at the youth and high school levels. For 97 percent of football players, the pinnacle of their careers is the high school game. Few players ever go on to the college level. Even less make it to the pros.
For a lot of these kids, it’s not until it’s all said and done, and they look back on it several years later, that they realize the difference the sport made in their lives. They are proud of playing the game. Have you ever met anybody who accomplished playing four years of high school football, and at the end of that run said, ‘Man, I wish I wouldn’t have played’? It doesn’t get said.
We know that football players aren’t perfect. Nobody is. But millions of former players, one by one, can recount the life-altering principles they learned from football.
They know the value of football is the values in football.
That’s why high school football – and particularly high school coaches – play such a vital role in our society. Our football coaches are on the front lines of the battle for the hearts and minds of the young men in our society. The culture war is on and we see it every day. These young men are more vulnerable than ever.
How many youth and high school coaches serve as a father figure to their players? How many mothers look to the coaches of their son’s football team as the last best hope to show their son what it means to become a man – a real man? More than we’ll ever know.
Coaches teach our young people the lessons of life that very often they learn from no one else. Coaches have the kind of influence in our schools, and with our young people, that is difficult to come by.
Billy Graham once said, “One coach will influence more people in one year than the average person will do in a lifetime.” My dad also says all the time that it just takes one person to believe in a young man or young woman to change their lives. I couldn’t agree more.
Our culture teaches us to judge an activity by how it’s going to make us feel right now. But football doesn’t work that way. The game challenges and pushes us. It’s often uncomfortable. It requires us to be at our best.
Isn’t that what we want in our society?
Football is a great sport. Football teams can be, and very often are, the catalyst for good in our schools and our communities. Millions of young men have learned lessons in football that they could only learn through playing this game. Football has saved lives.
That is why football matters.
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Posted Apr 22, 2015
By John Harbaugh
Football is under attack, but the game and the values it instills in young men are critical to our society.
The game of football is under attack.
We see it every day in the headlines and on the news. The medical concerns are pressing. The game has taken its share of criticism. President Barack Obama said that if he had boys he wouldn’t let them play football. Even LeBron James has publicly said no football in his house.
The question is asked over and over: Why would anyone want to play football? And why would anyone let their kids play?
Here’s my answer: I believe there’s practically no other place where a young man is held to a higher standard.
Football is hard. It’s tough. It demands discipline. It teaches obedience. It builds character.
Football is a metaphor for life.
This game asks a young man to push himself further than he ever thought he could go. It literally challenges his physical courage. It shows him what it means to sacrifice. It teaches him the importance of doing his job well. We learn to put others first, to be part of something bigger than ourselves. And we learn to lift our teammates – and ourselves – up together.
These are rare lessons nowadays.
Football has faced challenges like this before.
In 1905, there were 19 player deaths and at least 137 serious injuries. Many of these occurred at the high school and college levels. Major colleges said they were going to drop football because the game had become too violent.
That’s when President Teddy Roosevelt stepped in to call a meeting with coaches and athletic advisers from Harvard, Princeton and Yale. He wanted to find a way to make the game safer. They made significant changes, introducing new rules like the forward pass and the wide receiver position. Those changes turned football more into the game we know it as today.
We made progress. Rules changed. Society evolved. The game advanced.
We’re at another turning point in our sport. The concussion issue is real and we have to face it.
We have to continue to get players in better helmets. We have to teach tackling the right way, and that starts at the NFL level. Change the rules. Take certain things out of the game. It’s all the right thing to do.
But even with all of that, the importance of football hasn’t changed. In some ways, it’s more important than ever.
And I believe the most critical place for football is at the youth and high school levels. For 97 percent of football players, the pinnacle of their careers is the high school game. Few players ever go on to the college level. Even less make it to the pros.
For a lot of these kids, it’s not until it’s all said and done, and they look back on it several years later, that they realize the difference the sport made in their lives. They are proud of playing the game. Have you ever met anybody who accomplished playing four years of high school football, and at the end of that run said, ‘Man, I wish I wouldn’t have played’? It doesn’t get said.
We know that football players aren’t perfect. Nobody is. But millions of former players, one by one, can recount the life-altering principles they learned from football.
They know the value of football is the values in football.
That’s why high school football – and particularly high school coaches – play such a vital role in our society. Our football coaches are on the front lines of the battle for the hearts and minds of the young men in our society. The culture war is on and we see it every day. These young men are more vulnerable than ever.
How many youth and high school coaches serve as a father figure to their players? How many mothers look to the coaches of their son’s football team as the last best hope to show their son what it means to become a man – a real man? More than we’ll ever know.
Coaches teach our young people the lessons of life that very often they learn from no one else. Coaches have the kind of influence in our schools, and with our young people, that is difficult to come by.
Billy Graham once said, “One coach will influence more people in one year than the average person will do in a lifetime.” My dad also says all the time that it just takes one person to believe in a young man or young woman to change their lives. I couldn’t agree more.
Our culture teaches us to judge an activity by how it’s going to make us feel right now. But football doesn’t work that way. The game challenges and pushes us. It’s often uncomfortable. It requires us to be at our best.
Isn’t that what we want in our society?
Football is a great sport. Football teams can be, and very often are, the catalyst for good in our schools and our communities. Millions of young men have learned lessons in football that they could only learn through playing this game. Football has saved lives.
That is why football matters.
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Maplewood football was not very good from the 80's-early 2000's. They had some "recruits and move-ins" in the mid to late 2000's to early 2010's and were state contenders. They also had kids not living in the district. The Basketball program benefited from these players as well.
