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Honestly about what I expected from this one.................crown these guys C6 champs now!
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They definitely have several good candidates in virtually all 11-man classes. C5 Vianney is clearly going to be a handful, C4 Ladue has, I think, its best team/chance while C3 is Trinity Catholic and C2 Lutheran North. We shall see............
I doubt it. STL always outcoached a majority of years. Class 6 is usually the class that brings it home. I find it odd CBC doesn’t travel more. Instead of LN and Trinity. Those teams don’t fare as well as CBC does.
is it a surprise that 4 of those 5 schools are private?
Only way the east can get it done.
No, it’s not shocking that St Louis has more Jesuit & Catholic schools than the rest of the state
Shocking that the public schools never win isn't it? Why is that?
There aren’t a lot of small public schools in the stl area to begin with. Between class 1&2 there is 3 public schools from the Stl area and that’s reaching.
So common sense would tell you that a bunch of small private schools in a large metropolitan should do well. But as we all know, common sense isn’t that common.
There’s a point you’re desperately wanting to make. You should stop being coy and just come right out and say it.
Nobody is being coy. Cheaters win all the time in HSFB. It's a fact that private schools prove every year.
Veer can speak for himself. He’s never struck me as the type of man that needs someone to carry his water. Since you brought it up, though. How are private schools cheating?
I think it’s got a lot to do with attitude of coaches and players. Coaches are hyping up recruiting. And players are looking at what D 1/2 colleges are in the stands. I feel maxed out country boy talent, and good coaching beat these smaller private schools more times than not. It’s because they work hard, and give it all on the field. Yeah they are not being recruited? But they win at the level they are playing at.
Lower Class Level kids in Missouri getting recruited heavily by FBS programs is a relatively new phenomenon. Elliott out of JBS (Class 3) was one of the first but now colleges have been able to widen their net thru HUDL and how schools identify talent has changed (prospect camps, combines, etc). A kid in Class 2 can line up against a kid in Class 6 and coaches can do the whole apples-to-apples thing. What smaller schools didn’t have much of (until recently) is feeder programs, and the ones that have been developed in STL lately are primarily at private and parochial schools. I know Lamar’s success was built on middle school kids learning their systems and schemes for years before they get to HS. Add that with them running an offense that no one outside of their conference sees until they play them, and you’ve got a serious advantage. Class 6 CBC has had a feeder program thru age group teams for the last decade, and their success speaks for itself. People that have a personal issue with Trinity because they had a group of kids from an age group team all attend the same HS together ignore the detail that the consistency of being coached in the same system has HUGE advantages for athletes. Especially 16-17 yr olds. It isn’t about country kids “wanting it more”, or what race kids are, or magic in the water. It’s consistency and smaller communities having only 1 or 2 schools that their kids can go to (without moving to another town entirely).
Hey again what State did Elliott reside in?
MSHSAA rules don’t require that you reside in Missouri to attend and compete at a high school in Missouri. What is your point?
You can overcome not knowing an offense if you are focused, and have a good coach who makes half time adjustments. Lamar has used the same system for around 10 years? You are telling me they still have a advantage in regards to teams not knowing what’s coming? Hardly. It’s the hard work behind it. I agree on the school aspect to a degree. Lamar is coached to perfection. (Only close team is Webb City on coaching) and the players give it all, even risking injury in all big games. One of the many reasons I don’t doubt them. Shouldn’t Trinity have a championship or two by now? They have played together for ever. My problem with Trinity isn’t the kids. It’s the system of our state. But I do find it odd they continue to come up short. Of course you have to have talent and experience. Just clarifying in case I need to.
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Okay below is the rule, so I am asking because I really don't know, Does any Missouri Public school district cross state lines? If public don't how is that fair that private can?
14. Residence Requirements • A student may be eligible at the public or nonpublic school located in the district in which the student’s parents reside. In the case of a public multiple-school district, a student may be eligible at the school designated for the student to attend, based on parents’ residence, by the board of education.
You’ll need to ask MSHSAA why the rules are what they are. All I know is that private/parochial schools are allowed to admit students that live within a 25 (or so) mile radius, even if it crosses the state border. Missouri High Schools are funded by each municipality’s taxes, which is why they restrict attendance to residents of a public school’s district. Disliking a rule doesn’t make adherence to the rule “cheating”.
Ask Oklahoma how much of difference playing against Army’s triple option was for them. Yes. I’m saying that having one week to prepare for the 2 QB Spinner Offense Lamar runs is difficult. What’s MORE difficult though, is that their kids have been in the system since middle school. Any coach that says it isn’t an advantage isn’t being honest. Trinity’s season ended at the hands of Lamar and Lutheran North the last two years. If you consider them coming up short, then so did every other team that lost to them. That includes Ava and all the rest. Class 6 CBC, Class 5 Chaminade and Vianney, Class 4 MICDS, Class 3 JBS and Class 1 Valle all are private, all recruit kids within their area and all have actually WON state championships. I find it odd that Lamar fans and the others here are so fixated on Trinity.
Not a Lamar fan. Just not a private school fan. And don’t agree that Lamar’s offense can’t be figured out. Teams are either not prepared. Or don’t have the talent at this point. The advantage has shrunken.
I didn’t say their offense is The DaVinci Code. I said preparing in 1 week to defend that offense when you haven’t seen it before is SERIOUSLY difficult. Feel free to disagree. Unless you’ve coached high school kids and have tried to defend against that scheme or prepare for a unique one, then you really don’t have the experience to judge doing it. Creating mismatches is what the game is about. You’re free to have an opinion just like everyone else.
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