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Career State Dept Officials Testified

Blondee15

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That they informed Superiors about Biden conflict of interest issues because of his sons position in the Ukraine while he was VP. They testified they were told to let it go because of Bidens other son dying of cancer??

Just maybe it’s not another one of Trumps Conspiracy Theories!!
 
That they informed Superiors about Biden conflict of interest issues because of his sons position in the Ukraine while he was VP. They testified they were told to let it go because of Bidens other son dying of cancer??

Just maybe it’s not another one of Trumps Conspiracy Theories!!
Well I guess Trump's kids have to stop running all over the world getting all kinds of stuff done for their own, and his, profit while Trump is in office.
 
Well I guess Trump's kids have to stop running all over the world getting all kinds of stuff done for their own, and his, profit while Trump is in office.
They are running their businesses rather than being paid for access to the WH. How is Hunter qualified to be paid huge salaries in these roles?
 
They are running their businesses rather than being paid for access to the WH. How is Hunter qualified to be paid huge salaries in these roles?
Do you not see the inherent conflict of interest in this?

I agree that Hunter Biden doesn't appear to have the CV or skills that justified his pay.
 
Do you not see the inherent conflict of interest in this?

I agree that Hunter Biden doesn't appear to have the CV or skills that justified his pay.
Neither does tRUMP. I know he doesn't receive any pay nor should he. He's taking the people for millions of dollars in other ways.
 
Do you not see the inherent conflict of interest in this?

I agree that Hunter Biden doesn't appear to have the CV or skills that justified his pay.
I see that there could be a conflict of interest but that is not a problem until there is an action that constitutes it. Show me an actual abuse instead of a possibility.
With Biden, there is no legitimate explanation other than access.
 
I see that there could be a conflict of interest but that is not a problem until there is an action that constitutes it. Show me an actual abuse instead of a possibility.
With Biden, there is no legitimate explanation other than access.
I thought you have always said company should pay it's employees whatever they want to pay. I guess you think Ivanka would gotten all the this stuff from China if daddy wasn't the POTUS? o_O
 
I thought you have always said company should pay it's employees whatever they want to pay. I guess you think Ivanka would gotten all the this stuff from China if daddy wasn't the POTUS? o_O
Yes, there shouldn't be a minimum wage. What does that have to do with Trumps kids and their busineses? Ivanka was doing quite well before Trump became President but i'm sure there are perks associated with your dad being POTUS. The difference between her and Hunter is.....she didn't have to have her dad get the position for her to get hers.
 
I see that there could be a conflict of interest but that is not a problem until there is an action that constitutes it. Show me an actual abuse instead of a possibility.
With Biden, there is no legitimate explanation other than access.
The cognitive dissonance in this post is astounding. If Hunter Biden gets paid $500k, it must be wrong. If Trump directly is paid by a foreign government, it must be ok unless you can prove something untoward happen?

that makes no sense side by side
 
The cognitive dissonance in this post is astounding. If Hunter Biden gets paid $500k, it must be wrong. If Trump directly is paid by a foreign government, it must be ok unless you can prove something untoward happen?

that makes no sense side by side
Show me where "Trump directly is paid by a foreign government" that wasn't a pre-existing business.
Show me what Hunter Biden was getting paid to do.
 
Show me where "Trump directly is paid by a foreign government" that wasn't a pre-existing business.
Show me what Hunter Biden was getting paid to do.
YOU have always said a company should pay whatever they want, apparently they wanted to pay Hunter Biden a lot of money to be on their board. How is that any of Trump's business? All he wanted was for the President of Ukraine to announce to the world that he was investigating the Bidens. He couldn't care less about corruption ANYWHERE!
 
YOU have always said a company should pay whatever they want, apparently they wanted to pay Hunter Biden a lot of money to be on their board. How is that any of Trump's business? All he wanted was for the President of Ukraine to announce to the world that he was investigating the Bidens. He couldn't care less about corruption ANYWHERE!

I DON'T care if Burisma wants to pay Hunter BIG bucks for access to the WH. I do care if Joe withheld $1B from Ukraine and stopped a legitimate investigation into that arrangement benefiting his family.
 
I DON'T care if Burisma wants to pay Hunter BIG bucks for access to the WH. I do care if Joe withheld $1B from Ukraine and stopped a legitimate investigation into that arrangement benefiting his family.
You know they were paying him big bucks for access to the WH how? I have not seen or heard of anyone not in Trumps back pocket that thinks there is anything to that conspiracy theory. The U.S, the EU and other countries wanted the prosecutor gone because he would NOT investigate corruption, not because he was investigating the Bidens. Joe was sent there to help that along, not to save his son from him.
 
Show me where "Trump directly is paid by a foreign government" that wasn't a pre-existing business.
Show me what Hunter Biden was getting paid to do.
What does a pre existing business have to do with the innate conflicts of interest that exist. It's not magically better if it's a preexisting business vs a new one
 
You know they were paying him big bucks for access to the WH how? I have not seen or heard of anyone not in Trumps back pocket that thinks there is anything to that conspiracy theory. The U.S, the EU and other countries wanted the prosecutor gone because he would NOT investigate corruption, not because he was investigating the Bidens. Joe was sent there to help that along, not to save his son from him.
OK, play dumb if you want. Hunter has nothing but access to offer Burisma and they tried to use that connection too. Hunter was being investigated by that prosecutor and Joe got him fired.....period.
 
What does a pre existing business have to do with the innate conflicts of interest that exist. It's not magically better if it's a preexisting business vs a new one
All the way back to George Washington Presidents have had businesses when elected and maintained them during their Presidency. Why should Trump be different? If he is using the Presidency to benefit his business, get him on that.
 
All the way back to George Washington Presidents have had businesses when elected and maintained them during their Presidency. Why should Trump be different? If he is using the Presidency to benefit his business, get him on that.
That's not at all what has happened for decades. All recent Presidents have divested their businesses and locked their assets up in trusts where they have no oversight to avoid conflicts of interest. What did Mitt Romney own when he ran for President in 2012? Do you remember Jimmy Carter famously selling the peanut farm? What did Barack Obama or GWB own when they were in office? What stock did Dick Cheney still have in Halliburton (hint: zero.) Etc.

We should expect our politicians to avoid the appearance of conflicts of interest.
 
That's not at all what has happened for decades. All recent Presidents have divested their businesses and locked their assets up in trusts where they have no oversight to avoid conflicts of interest. What did Mitt Romney own when he ran for President in 2012? Do you remember Jimmy Carter famously selling the peanut farm? What did Barack Obama or GWB own when they were in office? What stock did Dick Cheney still have in Halliburton (hint: zero.) Etc.

We should expect our politicians to avoid the appearance of conflicts of interest.
Just because some have and some didn't have anything doesn't mean it is required or even proper. Maybe you should expect it but I don't. There are laws to prevent conflict of interest. If something has been done wrong, prosecute.
 
Just because some have and some didn't have anything doesn't mean it is required or even proper. Maybe you should expect it but I don't. There are laws to prevent conflict of interest. If something has been done wrong, prosecute.
Working on it.
 
Just because some have and some didn't have anything doesn't mean it is required or even proper. Maybe you should expect it but I don't. There are laws to prevent conflict of interest. If something has been done wrong, prosecute.
There aren't such laws, generally.

The whole point is we have depended upon people to be on the up and up of their own volition until now. This is one of the corrosive things about Trump's Presidency: we are lowering the bar in many areas.

We should expect the President not to own a hotel in DC, or to own foreign properties that are dependent upon other governments. We should expect the President not to have a direct economic interest in a businessses which are being paid by donors or other governments.
 
OK, play dumb if you want. Hunter has nothing but access to offer Burisma and they tried to use that connection too. Hunter was being investigated by that prosecutor and Joe got him fired.....period.
I guess the whole EU and other countries were in on it then because they ALL wanted him out because of his lack of investigations into corruption.
 
Just because some have and some didn't have anything doesn't mean it is required or even proper. Maybe you should expect it but I don't. There are laws to prevent conflict of interest. If something has been done wrong, prosecute.
I’ll chalk you down for being in favor of the impeachment investigation.
 
There aren't such laws, generally.

The whole point is we have depended upon people to be on the up and up of their own volition until now. This is one of the corrosive things about Trump's Presidency: we are lowering the bar in many areas.

We should expect the President not to own a hotel in DC, or to own foreign properties that are dependent upon other governments. We should expect the President not to have a direct economic interest in a businessses which are being paid by donors or other governments.
Are you saying he hasn't broken any laws?
Do you think our country is in jeopardy because foreign leaders stay at Trump properties?
 
Are you saying he hasn't broken any laws?
Do you think our country is in jeopardy because foreign leaders stay at Trump properties?
There are several people that say he HAS broken laws when he tried to extort the president of Ukraine. It gets even worse, the lady that testified most recently said that Mulvaney was worried about making Russia mad if we sent the anti tank missiles to Ukraine. I wonder why he would be concerned about that if Trump himself wasn't talking about it? NONE of this crap has been done without his direct knowledge and everybody knows it. Rudy has NO business running around the world telling people what to do and what our foreign policy is. If he is going to do that he should have been appointed to such a job and gone through confirmation hearings. But then about half the people Trump has now are 'acting' whatever position they hold. Not sure how it's legal to have so many people in high positions that are NOT confirmed by the senate. There should a be VERY short time limit on such appointments without them going through the proper process.
I don't know why I bother, you won't be for his removal no matter what evidence is shown. :(
 
Are you saying he hasn't broken any laws?
Do you think our country is in jeopardy because foreign leaders stay at Trump properties?
Individual-1 pretty clearly broke campaign finance laws.

Trump's properties in foreign countries like Turkey are more concerning to me.
 
Individual-1 pretty clearly broke campaign finance laws.

Trump's properties in foreign countries like Turkey are more concerning to me.
Now we know he had knowledge about wiki leaks all along and lied to Mueller about it. He wants to claim he has then greatest mind ever but tries to get away with saying, "I don't recall" when something like that comes up. I'll guarantee you he would NOT forget a conversation about wiki leaks, he was way too excited about them during his campaign to forget anything that had to do with them.
 
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