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Breaking Down Trump's Lies in Detroit

Gubba Bump Shrimp

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In Sunday's New York Daily News, a rather popular Republican strategist named Rick Wilson wrote a column in which he advised Americans to beat He, Trump so badly at the polls this November that another He, Trump never rises from the earth again to threaten the four-decade game of bait-and-switch that Wilson and the rest of them had been running on America. You will see more of this as the campaign grinds on—movement conservative Republicans attempting to separate their party from the inevitable consequence of the way they've all done politics since the Reagan people invited the god-botherers into the tent where the racists invited in by Nixon were already jamming up the bar service.

The tells are deep in the piece, but they're easily found.

Perhaps the most important reason Trump needs to suffer an epic loss is to destroy the aura around Donald himself. Donald Trump and the revolting personality cult he has built around himself are an affront to the Party of Lincoln, to constitutional conservatism and to the fundamental beliefs of the American republic.

Jesus H. Christ on a biscuit, can we stop with the Party of Lincoln crapola?

You forfeited the right to that title the moment that Harry Dent sat down to write a memo. You are now the Party of Calhoun, the party of voter suppression. Hell, I don't know what "constitutional conservatism" even means any more, except to note that it seems to involve radical Tentherism and a desire to roll back the effects of Amendments 13-15.

I want to be clear here. As a principled conservative, I loathe the high likelihood that Hillary Clinton will—barring a bear attack or some other unforeseen externality—win this election. She'll nominate liberal Supreme Court justices.

Horrors, no. Elections have consequences? Who knew?

We'll lose religious liberty.

Balls. Your ability to use modified, Biblically based Jim Crow arguments will be somewhat curtailed.

We'll have our Second Amendment freedoms compromised.

Not "compromised," limited, as is every right guaranteed in the Bill of Rights, one way or the other.

Chuck Schumer's immigration bill is going to be so bad it will make many of us beg for the Gang of Eight.

The Gang of Eight was a Republican bill, for pity's sake. It was going to be the golden ticket of the post-2012 autopsy, and it was going to help Marco Rubio become president. Instead, the reaction to it unleashed the party's barely concealed Id, an Id that years of "principled conservatism" tenderly had nurtured. It destroyed Rubio's political career, and it gave He, Trump's campaign its first big boost. It's a little late now to claim that he's someone else's monster.

Anyway, in Detroit today, as El Caudillo de Mar-A-Lago attempted to give another big-boy policy speech, He was interrupted nine times by protesters, whom he ignored. (What are the odds that "Ignore Protesters" were written in all caps on the teleprompters? His handlers are lucky he didn't read it.) Once again, he appeared bored, and somewhat afraid that the teleprompters would eat him.

What was remarkable, though, is that his speech sold down the river all the faux-populism that his campaign had been peddling for the past 16 months. But first, a sampling of arrant BS:

This is a city controlled by Democratic politicians at every level, and unless we change policies, we will not change results.

This will come as some surprise to Gov.Rick Snyder, who put Detroit under his pet emergency manager law for a year so that the manager could put the city into bankruptcy.

Recently, at a campaign event, Hillary Clinton short-circuited again—to use a now famous term—when she accidentally told the truth and said she wanted to raise taxes on the middle class.

This claim is based on a cheaply made ratfcking video produced by his own campaign in which HRC's remarks are clipped so that she seems to be saying that we "are" going to raise taxes on the middle class, when the video taken at the time clearly has her saying that we "aren't" going to do so. This is as good an example of the dangers of sampling your own product as I can remember.

We've seen it from President Obama, when he gives $150 billion to Iran, the number one terror state, and even gives them $400 million in money-laundered cash as a ransom payment.

It wasn't ransom and it wasn't laundered.

Now, as to the policy part of the speech, you can forget about that weird provision in the Republican platform about bringing back the Glass-Steagall Act. Must've been a typo.

Upon taking office, I will issue a temporary moratorium on new agency regulations. My running mate, Mike Pence, signed a similar order when he became governor of Indiana. This will give our American companies the certainty they need to reinvest in our community, get cash off of the sidelines, start hiring for new jobs, and expanding businesses.

And then, of course, there's the reform by which young Barron Trump's great-grandchildren never will have to work a day in their lives.

Finally, no family will have to pay the death tax. American workers have paid taxes their whole lives, and they should not be taxed again at death—it's just plain wrong. We will repeal it.

Populism, baby!

Yeah, there was some stuff in there about doing away with the carried-interest loophole, a fine notion that we also would get if we elected just about anyone else running for president. But the real story of the speech was twofold—first, if He, Trump has pivoted at all, it's toward conventional Reaganomics of the kind that, every eight years or so, sends the economy into the dumpster and the deficit off towards Neptune.

And second, can someone please tell the candidate when the election is?

In the days ahead, we will provide more details on this plan and how it will help you and your family.

In the days ahead? There are only about 90 of them left. Take your time, dude.

Via Esquire.com
 
These people don't want anyone outside the establishment to ever challenge again. They want to crush any independent or third party threat in the future by imposing their will now and crushing the resistance. Why not just cut Trump and Bernies heads off and put them on stakes in front of the white House?
 
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These people don't want anyone outside the establishment to ever challenge again. They want to crush any independent or third party threat in the future by imposing their will now and crushing the resistance. Why not just cut Trump and Bernies heads off and put them on stakes in front of the white House?
Yes, that's clearly why the average voter is alarmed about Trump and why foreign policy hands from both parties are terrified of him. Surely this is what motivates some very conservative people in the R party to oppose him, not his massive disconnect from them on policy.

Or maybe it's just that he's a uniquely unqualified candidate?

Do you really think it would have been comparable had Sanders been the D nominee? Do you think this many senators wouldn't have fallen in line? That past Presidents and nominees would have avoided the convention?
 
Yes, that's clearly why the average voter is alarmed about Trump and why foreign policy hands from both parties are terrified of him. Surely this is what motivates some very conservative people in the R party to oppose him, not his massive disconnect from them on policy.

Or maybe it's just that he's a uniquely unqualified candidate?

Do you really think it would have been comparable had Sanders been the D nominee? Do you think this many senators wouldn't have fallen in line? That past Presidents and nominees would have avoided the convention?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Daily_News

You wrote all of that to tell us that a Left Wing paper hates Conservatives ?

Guess what...
RUSH hates liberals. o_O


 
These people don't want anyone outside the establishment to ever challenge again. They want to crush any independent or third party threat in the future by imposing their will now and crushing the resistance. Why not just cut Trump and Bernies heads off and put them on stakes in front of the white House?

If they don't start presenting better candidates this won't be an abberation. They may not want it, but when the best you give us is Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, that's like picking between cancer and a bullet to the head.

If there was a good candidate available, do you really think a 74 year old socialist would have had any actual following?

I'm interested what they're going to trot out in 2020. We'll probably be picking between Curt Schilling and Kanye West because people are morons.
 
There are countless other people and sources saying the same things - Susan Collins, Erick Erickson, Ted Cruz's non-endorsement, etc.

I know RUSH.

RUSH is a friend of mind.

RUSH is a GREAT CONSERVATIVE

CNN bought and paid for Erick Erickson
is no Rush Limbaugh....o_O

:oops:Your confusion with this simple point shows just how out of touch you are with True Conservatives...
 
I know RUSH.

RUSH is a friend of mind.

RUSH is a GREAT CONSERVATIVE

CNN bought and paid for Erick Erickson
is no Rush Limbaugh....o_O

:oops:Your confusion with this simple point shows just how out of touch you are with True Conservatives...

You're ridiculous.

I'm already annoyed, because no matter what happens the loons on the right will scream corruption or tampering.

Is it possible Trump is just a terrible candidate and out of touch with mainstream Americans?
 
You're ridiculous.

I'm already annoyed, because no matter what happens the loons on the right will scream corruption or tampering.

Is it possible Trump is just a terrible candidate and out of touch with mainstream Americans?

It is possible you are right on both assessments.

Trump is a terrible candidate...
and not like mainstream America.

That is why we like him...o_O
 
These people don't want anyone outside the establishment to ever challenge again. They want to crush any independent or third party threat in the future by imposing their will now and crushing the resistance. Why not just cut Trump and Bernies heads off and put them on stakes in front of the white House?
There are 3 factors motivating me to vote for Trump.
1) It's him or Hillary.
2) He's not part of the political class and they hate him.
3) SC justices.

I know you don't agree on the 3rd but I think there is a lot of commonality on the other 2.
 
These people don't want anyone outside the establishment to ever challenge again. They want to crush any independent or third party threat in the future by imposing their will now and crushing the resistance. Why not just cut Trump and Bernies heads off and put them on stakes in front of the white House?
With t rump's head there won't be enough room for Bernie's.
 

RUSH is a friend of mind.

RUSH is a GREAT CONSERVATIVE

:oops:Your confusion with this simple point shows just how out of touch you are with True Conservatives...

Pill popping, draft dodging, fear mongering, racist Rush.

Yep, I bet he does represent whatever you think conservatism is.
 
I know RUSH.

RUSH is a friend of mind.

RUSH is a GREAT CONSERVATIVE

CNN bought and paid for Erick Erickson
is no Rush Limbaugh....o_O

:oops:Your confusion with this simple point shows just how out of touch you are with True Conservatives...
Rush is one of Canada's greatest rock and roll bands and I love them Long live Geddy Lee:D
 
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There's that term again. Is there a conservative you don't call a racist?

Haven't called you racist. Or Bush, or Romney...the list of conservatives that I've called racist is pretty short.

I get that since Trump emerged the strategy is to make yourselves seem like victims and claim "all you do is shout racist" and for some you may definitely have an argument.

Is this better, Rush is a racial agitator. You can't say he doesn't infuse race into his programming, I guess you could, but you'd be a liar.
 
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Sometimes the truth doesn't paint other races in the best light. Ferguson comes to mind. Telling the truth about other races is not racist.
 
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Sometimes the truth doesn't paint other races in the best light. Ferguson comes to mind. Telling the truth about other races is not racist.

And what is the truth about "other races"? Please Trump Jr., treat entire races as monolithic entities and paint with a broad brush...

Tell me the truth about "the blacks" or "the mexicans" or "the muslims"
 
Rush is one of Canad'a greatest rock and roll bands and I love them Long live Geddy Lee:D

I will be the bigger person and apologize for those of you who unknowingly agreed with that post.

They do not know that you've been using that comeback for over 7 years just to get a LIKE.

By the way fellow vb followers, he's listened to RUSH for years and finds him inspirational.

Think you guys need to reassess your friends....o_O

Bringing people together is what we're all about...:rolleyes:
 
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And what is the truth about "other races"? Please Trump Jr., treat entire races as monolithic entities and paint with a broad brush...

Tell me the truth about "the blacks" or "the mexicans" or "the muslims"

Miller just gave to you what you gave to him, a broad brush.

You libs are great at dishing it out but are Mommy's boy when it comes to taking it.

Now go take a seat in the corner ....
1, 2, 3, 4.....:D
 
And what is the truth about "other races"? Please Trump Jr., treat entire races as monolithic entities and paint with a broad brush...

Tell me the truth about "the blacks" or "the mexicans" or "the muslims"

Do you not believe it was blacks burning their own neighborhood in Fergusson?
Do you not think it is Mexicans crossing our borders illegally?
Do you not think those trying to kill us and our friends in the name of Allah aren't Muslims?
That does not mean or say all blacks, Mexicans, or Muslims are a threat or mean harm.
That is not to say there aren't exceptions in looting, illegal immigration, and terrorism.
Nowhere in that post did I cast dispersion on ANY race. I could say MANY similar things about whites but, when it comes to riots and looting, Hatians aren't the ones that need addressed. When it comes to illegal immigrants, the Dutch aren't who are the problem. When it comes to terrorism, Poland isn't where to look. When it comes to corporate greed, Greeks wouldn't be the group to look into.
 
Sometimes the truth doesn't paint other races in the best light. Ferguson comes to mind. Telling the truth about other races is not racist.

So every black person is responsible for Ferguson? I know that isn't what you mean, but that's how it reads...
 
There are 3 factors motivating me to vote for Trump.
1) It's him or Hillary.
2) He's not part of the political class and they hate him.
3) SC justices.

I know you don't agree on the 3rd but I think there is a lot of commonality on the other 2.

1) Or Johnson an actual fiscal conservative
2) He is part of the political class. He schmoozes with all of them.
3) Just silly. This so called conservative court hasn't been.
 
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