Blocked extra point field goal attempt

[C man F]

Help me answer this question Last night in the game between King city and Gallatin the football game went to overtime King city scored first and missed the two point conversion attempt Gallatin scored attempted A field goal extra point that was blocked and recovered at the goal line by Gallatin the referee blew the whistle when it was blocked the ball was recovered at the goal line by Gallatin initially the game was over but then the referees talked and said that since they blew the whistle that they were going to re-kick then they decided that that was wrong and gave the ball to Gallatin at the 25 for the second overtime
Shouldn't the ball have been dead whenever it was blocked for the field goal extra point attempt and then since he blew his whistle it was dead at that point anyway correct

 

[Missouri Kid]

Help me answer this question Last night in the game between King city and Gallatin the football game went to overtime King city scored first and missed the two point conversion attempt Gallatin scored attempted A field goal extra point that was blocked and recovered at the goal line by Gallatin the referee blew the whistle when it was blocked the ball was recovered at the goal line by Gallatin initially the game was over but then the referees talked and said that since they blew the whistle that they were going to re-kick then they decided that that was wrong and gave the ball to Gallatin at the 25 for the second overtime
Shouldn't the ball have been dead whenever it was blocked for the field goal extra point attempt and then since he blew his whistle it was dead at that point anyway correct

Ball was definitely dead when the whistle blew. I must assume Gallatin won the toss and elected to defend for the first OT and therefore King City would have the option for the second OT. Therefore, I assume King City chose to defend meaning Gallatin would have the offensive possession to start the second OT.

 

[royalones]

The ball is dead when it is apparent the try is successful /unsuccessfully. The whistle only verifies the results.

From your post, the crew put their heads together to get it right then continued the OT procedure.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Help me answer this question Last night in the game between King city and Gallatin the football game went to overtime King city scored first and missed the two point conversion attempt Gallatin scored attempted A field goal extra point that was blocked and recovered at the goal line by Gallatin the referee blew the whistle when it was blocked the ball was recovered at the goal line by Gallatin initially the game was over but then the referees talked and said that since they blew the whistle that they were going to re-kick then they decided that that was wrong and gave the ball to Gallatin at the 25 for the second overtime
Shouldn't the ball have been dead whenever it was blocked for the field goal extra point attempt and then since he blew his whistle it was dead at that point anyway correct

 

[hitch_and_go]

Thats not true unless they have recently changed it

 

[hitch_and_go]

As far as i know after three overtimes you must go for 2

 

[hitch_and_go]

Lost in the 4th overtime my senior year and i was a captain ...that is what the officials told us at the coin flip.

 

[royalones]

Under NFHS guidelines, there is no rules requiring teams to go for "2" after any particular number of OT's. That is a college thing.

In regards to the coin toss for subsequent OT's (@Anders4 ) , here's what the NFHS rules book says:
12-5-1: If the score remains tied after each team has been given one series of downs in an overtime period, then the procedure shall be repeated with other overtime periods until a game winner is determined. In this case, there shall be an intermission of two minutes. At the subsequent meeting of team captains, the loser of the overtime coin toss will be given first choice of the options. If additional overtime periods are required, then first options will be alternated with no coin toss.

 

[royalones]

Lost in the 4th overtime my senior year and i was a captain ...that is what the officials told us at the coin flip.

They may have since changed the rules to eliminate that requirement. OR, that particular official was either intentionally wrong or ignorantly incorrect.

 

[hitch_and_go]

Im not real sure but that was definitely what we were told. We lost a fumble after they kicked a fg so it never came down to it.

 

[Anders4]

Under NFHS guidelines, there is no rules requiring teams to go for "2" after any particular number of OT's. That is a college thing.

In regards to the coin toss for subsequent OT's (@Anders4 ) , here's what the NFHS rules book says:
12-5-1: If the score remains tied after each team has been given one series of downs in an overtime period, then the procedure shall be repeated with other overtime periods until a game winner is determined. In this case, there shall be an intermission of two minutes. At the subsequent meeting of team captains, the loser of the overtime coin toss will be given first choice of the options. If additional overtime periods are required, then first options will be alternated with no coin toss.

I've coached in a multiple OT game. They did a coin toss after everyone. Either the ref was wrong or they just changed that rule within the last couple years.

 

[r14veer]

Ref was wrong: "At the subsequent meeting of the team captains, the loser of the overtime coin toss will be given the first choice of the options. If additional overtime periods are required, then first options will be alternated with no coin toss."

Also, there is nothing in the NFHS rule book about having to ever go for 2 point conversions. That doesn't mean that the coaches and referees can't agree on doing it that way though. Also, states are free to deviate from the NFHS overtime procedure. Missouri does: instead of starting from the 10 yard line, we start from the 25 yard line and can gain first downs.

 

[royalones]

@r14veer Though the MSHSAA does have a number of rule adoptions, changing the scoring methods in OT is not one of them. Coaches are only allowed (with mutual agreement) to reduce the amount of the halftime or shorten the game. Under NFHS rules, there are no options available (even if agreed to by coaches) to change the OT scoring methods. With the exception of the specific rule adoptions, the MSHSAA is a 100% state - complying with 100% of the NFHS rules and mechanics.

 

[r14veer]

@r14veer Though the MSHSAA does have a number of rule adoptions, changing the scoring methods in OT is not one of them. Coaches are only allowed (with mutual agreement) to reduce the amount of the halftime or shorten the game. Under NFHS rules, there are no options available (even if agreed to by coaches) to change the OT scoring methods. With the exception of the specific rule adoptions, the MSHSAA is a 100% state - complying with 100% of the NFHS rules and mechanics.

I stand corrected on that point, thanks.