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8am BIden takes the lead in PA and GA

Watching the news and from what I am hearing that the count is going to be so close in a couple of states that it will trigger an automatic recount.
 
Sure, but they aren't close enough that any possible change flips them for Trump.

All in all, this can be considered a landslide. If Republican legislatures had allowed some of these states to count ballots early (like FL and TX), then we would have gotten these results Tuesday and none of this narrative exists.

This is what Republicans were banking on, though, especially in Pennsylvania. They didn't let them count early because they wanted mail-in ballot to be coming in late so that they could whine and call fraud. It's why trump was crapping on Philly for the last month of his campaign. They just didn't expect to lose Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona too. PA doesn't even matter at this point.

I actually think that is more state legislation? Because some states counted the ballots early. You are a Prime example of why I created the other thread about people not knowing how our election process works.


If the Dems really want to be the party of healing all you guys shouting across the playing field yelling you are all a bunch of losers are not helping that case. Starting to see a picture here Dems rioted when Trump won and the lost, and now they are gloating while winning. Talk about poor sportsmanship no matter the outcome.
 
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If the Dems really want to be the party of healing all you guys shouting across the playing field yelling you are all a bunch of losers are not helping that case. Starting to see a picture here Dems rioted when Trump won and the lost, and now they are gloating while winning. Talk about poor sportsmanship no matter the outcome.

Has trump or the reps done anything to try to unite the country in the past 4 yrs?? No, they have done nothing but rip dems for the past 12 years. All I remember is dems being called names. And you can expect the rhetoric to continue from the reps. They will be all over Biden from Day 1. Do you really think reps are capable of holding hands around the campfire and singing kumbaya?? Come on, man, get real!!

I haven't gloated once, it's not official yet in my book. Con Man and the reps are certainly capable of disregarding all integrity and ethics by eventually sending the decision thru the lower courts to a trump appointed, rep dominated Supreme Court for a favorable trump decision. They proved that with the joke they made out of the impeachment trial.
 
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Has trump or the reps done anything to try to unite the country in the past 4 yrs?? No, they have done nothing but rip dems for the past 12 years. All I remember is dems being called names. And you can expect the rhetoric to continue from the reps. They will be all over Biden from Day 1. Do you really think reps are capable of holding hands around the campfire and singing kumbaya?? Come on, man, get real!!

I haven't gloated once, it's not official yet in my book. Con Man and the reps are certainly capable of disregarding all integrity and ethics by eventually sending the decision thru the lower courts to a trump appointed, rep dominated Supreme Court for a favorable trump decision. They proved that with the joke they made out of the impeachment trial.

I don't know that it is in the Pubs best interest to fully support Trump in his ego fight if the final outcome has him losing. These election results were clearly not the hopefully landslide that the Dems had envisioned. I think most Pubs do like many of the policies that Trump said he would support, I hope the Pubs look at that and realize that is what people supported....There are many things in there that I think the Dems and Pubs could find common ground.
 
Tonight's address goes a long way to reaching out to republicans. This is Joe Biden's moment to show leadership. To attempt to start the healing process.
We will see if he can rise to the occasion tonight. I think he will.
 
You continue to make statements presented as fact that aren't true. Where's the proof? How are dem run states 3rd world election processes different than repubs? What irregularities?? What evidence do you have as proof? How did the rep senators win their elections if the voting "fix" was in by the dems.

Bunch of crybabies!!
 
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In todays tech filled world, there are much better ways to conduct the vote such as MISSOURIs. The very fact that Republicans are winning every measurable part of the election and Biden is underperforming HILLARY in most states is evidence in itself that something fishy at best is going on in 4 states.
Have you lost your mind. Biden has got THE MOST votes EVER in a presidential race and Trump is second. Both sides got their people out to vote and it appears the dems will flip a few states but the still lost days in the house and the pubs kept the senate. if the dems are cheating they ain't very good at it.
 
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Miller ain't all there. Been a rough year for her. Soon as I recognize that was her second handle i hit ignore.
You know the crying will be nonstop. Just ignore.
 
I NEVER said Biden was getting less votes. I said he was under performing HILLARY. In almost every state (except for the 4 in question....Mi, Ws, Ga, and Pa) Biden is getting a smaller percentage of the vote than Hillary did. If Biden has more votes than Hillary, then Trump is far more popular than 2016 turning out even bigger increases.
Most states aren't run by Philadelphia/Atlanta/Detroit/Milwaukee voting hubs with years of Democrat "experience" in finding votes. Most places just vote and then count them in plain view for everyone to see. The Dems already control all the House seats in those cities!
State people run the elections, U.S. Reps and Senators have nothing to do with it. Biden has more votes than ANYBODY ever had and Trump is second. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
 
What is wrong with you? You asked why Pubs were winning Senate and House seats if cheating was going on! I never even mentioned Senators and you asked about those races. Pubs aren't winning any House seats in Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Atlanta......the same places with all the voting problems.
The Sec. of State in each state is in charge of EXECUTING what the state legislature decides. The Sec. of State doesn't count the votes! Have you ever noticed the county and city runs their own polling sites?
Biden got more counted ballots than anybody ever but got a lesser percentage than Hillary in almost all states.....that is under performing unless you wish to say Trump was so popular that even though Biden got more votes he won by less. The places Biden got a higher percentage are the ones that have been counted in much less than full daylight.
Biden had 4 million more votes than Trump, Clinton had 3 million more. Biden won because he able to win some states Clinton couldn't. There were a LOT more votes cast in this election, I'm pretty sure that makes the percentages smaller. NONE of that matters, what matters is he got the electoral numbers needed to win. Let me know when this election gets overturned because the people that worked their ass off the last several days to count votes cheated poor Donald.
 
It’s amazing all of the people back to supporting the electoral college.
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Why would they, Biden would win easily with the popular vote. I've always hated it. The majority of the people should elect the president not 270 people. Lindsey Graham wants to throw out the votes in PA and let the electors decide who gets that state.
 
I don't think anyone has changed his/her mind on the EC. If the democrats could get rid of it they would.
 
Never said Biden didn't get votes or more votes.
Never said Biden wasn't the winner.

This started with me explaining the oddities of the vote counts in a few states.
YOU jumped in with how they were poor cheaters because they weren't winning congressional seats.
Every time I explain why your premise is wrong, you change to a different topic THEN question why i'm talking about the new topic you brought up.

If Biden is getting a lower percentage of the vote in most states, why is he getting a higher percentage in the deciding, late counting, Democrat run, secretively counted states? Could it be because he didn't really?

That is a "benefit" of winning local elections in those places. You get to run the elections. If you feel cheating is acceptable, you have the control.
At least some of the states in question and the locals are pubs. If this was a massive cheating scandal why wouldn't they change votes for the senate and house too? They lost seats in the house and will most likely NOT take the senate. When Georgia gets it down to two people in each race I have to assume the pubs will win.
 
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Americans aren't buying the latest trump conspiracy theory. There is no proof of wrongdoing. The vote fraud script was written before the election. It's just another line of BS from the world's biggest liar.
 
There is tons of proof of wrongdoing! There is no proof of changed votes but that COULD be because of the wrongdoing. What goes on behind closed doors is hard to PROVE!
You can't honestly say dead people voting isn't wrongdoing.
You can't honestly say barring observers isn't wrongdoing.
You can't honestly say not separating late arriving votes in Pa. (as directed by the SC) isn't wrongdoing.
Does this add up to a stolen election? Who knows? These margins are VERY thin in Wisk, Pa, Az, Ga, and Nev.
Without closer evaluation of the level of wrongdoing NO ONE can say what the effect was.
The lead in PA is over 30 thousand votes and others 10 thousand or more. GAeorgiais the only real close one last I knew of. Every time they release a new vote count Biden's lead gets bigger because the vote they're counting now are almost all mail in ballots that have been going overwhelming in Biden's favor. I don't think that many dead people vote this year.
 
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