5 Classes

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

Anyone have the time to put together a five class breakdown using last years numbers? That would be cook to see.

Made Class 5 the catch-all. You have four classes of 70 and then Class 5 with 54.

Class 5

St. Louis University - 2803
Rockhurst - 2736
Christian Brothers College - 2565
Blue Springs - 2547
Jefferson City - 2500
Hazelwood West - 2268
Marquette - 2223
Joplin - 2216
Lindbergh - 2060
Blue Springs South - 2041
Lee's Summit West - 2037
DeSmet - 2020
Troy Buchanan - 1993
Hazelwood Central - 1966
Ft. Zumwalt West - 1964
Francis Howell - 1947
Francis Howell Central - 1906
Lee's Summit North - 1904
Northwest - 1901
Raymore-Peculiar - 1900
Eureka - 1885
Park Hill - 1877
Lafayette - 1874
Rock Bridge - 1866
Ritenour - 1832
Lee's Summit - 1823
Seckman - 1814
Kickapoo - 1800
McCluer North - 1790
Fox - 1790
Mehlville - 1794
Kirkwood - 1779
Timberland - 1778
Francis Howell North - 1773
Liberty - 1767
Liberty North - 1764
Parkway South - 1740
Nixa - 1733
Pattonville - 1727
St. Joseph Central - 1703
Holt - 1662
Hickman - 1660
Vianney - 1634
Ozark - 1632
Waynesville -1627
Springfield Central - 1612
Park Hill South -1605
Truman - 1605
Raytown - 1600
Oakville - 1550
Staley - 1525
Jackson - 1523
Fort Osage - 1503
Chaminade - 1502

Class 4

Poplar Bluff - 1478
North Kansas City - 1476
Lebanon - 1466
Smith-Cotton - 1466
Ruskin - 1454
Oak Park - 1439
Ft. Zumwalt North - 1437
Branson - 1430
William Chrisman - 1425
Hazelwood East - 1391
Republic - 1389
Battle - 1378
Ft. Zumwalt South - 1370
Glendale - 1361
Carthage - 1356
Belton - 1356
Washington - 1351
Webster Groves - 1351
Parkview -1347
Willard - 1324
Rockwood Summit - 1316
Neosho - 1316
Winnetonka - 1314
Ladue - 1301
Camdenton - 1297
Ft. Zumwalt East - 1276
Rolla - 1273
Parkway West - 1270
Parkway Central - 1263
Liberty (Wentzville) - 1251
Parkway North - 1236
Grandview - 1231
Grain Valley - 1192
McCluer - 1178
Kearney - 1178
Webb City - 1177
McDonald County - 1174
Raytown South - 1168
Gateway - 1148
Farmington - 1143
Riverview Gardens - 1141
Hillsboro - 1140
Platte County - 1106
Cape Central - 1100
West Plains - 1092
Hannibal - 1024
Hillcrest - 1016
Westminster Christian - 1012
Carl Junction - 1006
St. Dominic - 999
Van Horn - 997
DeSoto - 961
Sikeston - 957
Warrenton - 956
Windsor - 949
Marshfield - 940
Warrensburg - 931
St. Mary's - 924
Helias Catholic - 916
Pacific - 910
Union - 908
Clayton - 870
Festus - 870
North County - 897
Harrisonville - 884
MICDS - 874
East (Kansas City) - 843
Smithville - 841
University City - 841
St. Charles - 821

Class 3

Marshall - 818
Bolivar - 804
Excelsior Springs - 791
St. Francis Borgia - 783
Lafayette (St. Joseph) - 783
Benton - 781
Savannah - 780
Nevada - 777
Affton - 773
Priory - 759
Kirksville - 756
St. Clair - 750
Perryville - 744
Moberly - 735
Northeast (Kansas City) - 732
Potosi - 727
Monett - 710
St. Charles West - 710
Jennings - 708
Logan-Rogersville - 700
Center - 696
Lutheran South - 681
Mexico - 675
Confluence Prep Academy - 671
Normandy - 671
Sullivan - 667
Miller Career Academy - 666
Fulton - 655
Oak Grove - 649
Aurora - 639
Pleasant Hill - 639
Ste. Genevieve - 638
Dexter - 633
Reeds Spring - 621
Vashon - 616
Odessa - 615
Central Academy of Excellence - 607
Eldon - 605
Lincoln Prep - 604
Salem - 598
Soldan - 593
Owensville - 591
Cassville - 590
Clinton - 590
Chillicothe - 571
Pembroke Hill - 569
St. Pius X (Kansas City) - 555
John Burroughs - 554
Osage - 551
Cameron - 548
Springfield Catholic - 534
Park Hills Central - 531
Kennett - 526
Roosevelt - 518
Fredericktown - 516
McCluer South-Berkeley - 513
Boonville - 512
Orchard Farm - 504
Missouri Military Academy - 503
Southern Boone - 501
Hollister - 491
Bishop DuBourg - 488
Hogan Prep - 480
Mt. Vernon - 475
Southeast - 474
East Newton - 471
Maryville - 470
St. James - 468
O' Fallon Christian - 465
Lift for Life Academy - 462

Class 2

Buffalo - 458
New Madrid County Central - 457
Richmond - 457
Bayless - 456
Wright City - 454
Lutheran St. Charles - 453
Seneca - 442
Duchesne - 438
Blair Oaks - 430
Macon - 427
Mountain Grove - 425
Ava - 421
Doniphan - 419
Herculaneum - 418
Cuba - 417
California - 416
O'Hara - 412
Forsyth - 409
Centralia - 403
Willow Springs - 402
Winfield - 400
St. Pius X (Festus) - 396
Holden - 396
Father Tolton - 392
Clopton - 388
Warsaw - 388
Lutheran North - 387
Fair Grove - 386
Lamar - 384
Versailles - 384
Carnahan - 383
Lawson - 381
Houston - 380
Hallsville - 377
Montgomery County - 377
North Callaway - 377
Trinity Catholic - 374
Transportation and Law - 370
Bowling Green - 370
Strafford - 360
Sumner - 356
Principia - 356
Trenton - 354
Palmyra - 353
El Dorado Springs - 351
Cardinal Ritter - 347
East Prairie - 342
Summit Christian Academy - 342
Stockton - 339
Grandview - 332
Kelly - 332
Hermann - 328
Mt. View-Liberty - 327
Clever - 324
Lafayette County - 322
Knob Noster - 318
Caruthersville - 316
Highland - 307
Butler - 300
Brookfield - 298
Lathrop - 297
Malden - 296
Clark County - 294
Jefferson - 292
Cole Camp - 280
Charleston - 273
Carrollton - 273
Lexington - 270
Cleveland NJROTC - 269
St. Paul Lutheran (Concordia) - 265

Class 1

University Academy Charter - 265
Bishop LeBlond - 262
South Callaway - 262
Diamond - 261
Sherwood - 260
Brentwood - 245
Monroe City - 244
Portageville - 244
South Harrison - 243
East Buchanan - 240
Penney - 239
Cabool - 236
Ash Grove - 234
Mark Twain - 233
Plattsburg - 229
Sarcoxie - 227
Mid-Buchanan - 226
Scott City - 226
Adrian - 224
Tipton - 219
South Shelby - 217
Marionville - 216
St. Vincent - 194
Valle Catholic - 162
Windsor - 214
Putnam County - 213
Hayti - 211
Pleasant Hope - 211
Skyline - 209
Louisiana - 206
North Platte - 206
Milan - 205
Westran - 205
Marceline - 199
Pierce City - 198
Crest Ridge - 195
Thayer - 195
Gallatin - 194
Fayette - 192
Lone Jack - 191
Scotland County - 190
Archie -188
Chaffee - 188
Schuyler County - 188
Miller - 176
Maysville - 174
West Platte - 170
Osceola - 168
Salisbury - 168
Crystal City - 167
Harrisburg - 167
Van-Far - 164
Knox County - 162
Midway - 159
Lincoln - 151
Liberal - 148
Jasper - 144
Lockwood - 144
Polo - 139
Paris - 136
Concordia - 134
Wellington-Napoleon - 134
Rich Hill - 133
Appleton City - 131
Princeton - 127
Santa Fe - 126
Slater - 119
Sweet Springs - 116
Orrick - 109
Drexel - 102

 

[JNreturns]

Wish you could make that happen.

 

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

Wish you could make that happen.

Someone should.

 

[HoopsTournament]

Isn't Orrick 8-man?

 

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

Isn't Orrick 8-man?

No idea. If they are, just make the necessary adjustments.

 

[Cards1968]

64 team classes make for the perfect bracket. 70 is too many IMO. I like the current system with the occasional bye when teams drop football. Go to 5 classes when Class 5 drops below 32 teams (combine 5 and 6 to get at or below 64). Rinse and repeat.

 

[WPAlum2010]

Isn't Orrick 8-man?

Yes they will be this cycle

 

[sw5890]

Those groupings actually work out fairly good except if Bolivar had any success under that configuration they will be chastised for beating up on smaller schools and accused of falsifying their enrollment to stay the biggest fish in the pond.

Does MSHSAA or any other entity have a vested interest in keeping, adding or reducing classifications? Do they want more because it's lets more teams have a chance to win or because it is more post season games to charge admission for? Do they want less because it's less to manage? Or is it just what they think makes sense based on the number of schools and the differences between them? Why do some sports have only a few classifications where football effectively has 7? Basketball has only 5 but I would guess that more schools play basketball? Kind of off topic, just curious.

 

[BobbyMiles18]

Those groupings actually work out fairly good except if Bolivar had any success under that configuration they will be chastised for beating up on smaller schools and accused of falsifying their enrollment to stay the biggest fish in the pond.

Does MSHSAA or any other entity have a vested interest in keeping, adding or reducing classifications? Do they want more because it's lets more teams have a chance to win or because it is more post season games to charge admission for? Do they want less because it's less to manage? Or is it just what they think makes sense based on the number of schools and the differences between them? Why do some sports have only a few classifications where football effectively has 7? Basketball has only 5 but I would guess that more schools play basketball? Kind of off topic, just curious.

It only takes 5 players on the court for a basketball game. If a small school has 2 or 3 good players they can compete against much bigger schools. Its about fairness. In football most small schools get slaughtered by a platooning, loaded big school. That is why there are more classes.

 

[freezeoption]

I think this year 8 man picks up Orrick and Osceola. I don't remember what Greenfield is going to do. Sacred Heart is not doing football this year from what I heard.

 

[USArmyMike]

I think this year 8 man picks up Orrick and Osceola. I don't remember what Greenfield is going to do. Sacred Heart is not doing football this year from what I heard.

more schools should go to 8 man. Slater, Paris, Van-Far, Louisiana, Clopton come to mind........

 

[anon_utvqikut1knht]

Isn't Orrick 8-man?

Yes.

 

[anon_utvqikut1knht]

I have (early early) put together Week 1 of NWCMO Pick Em and can confirm Orrick is hosting Chilhowee. Schedules this year are a bit tricky with the new cycle but wow are there some fun, new matchups! For the players will be glad to know I have selected TWENTY EIGHT games think that may be a 10-season record for any week!

 

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

more schools should go to 8 man. Slater, Paris, Van-Far, Louisiana, Clopton come to mind........

I wish more schools in southeast Missouri would start 8-man teams. You could make (minimum) three good sized 8-man conferences in southeast Missouri.

Highway 25 Conference

Advance
Bell City
Delta
Marquand
Meadow Heights
Oak Ridge
Oran
Woodland

Deep South Conference

Bernie
Campbell
Cooter
Holcomb
North Pemiscot
Naylor
Neelyville

Rural 7 Conference

East Carter
Kingston
Puxico
Scott County Central
South Iron
Southern Reynolds County
Van Buren

 

[JNreturns]

Made Class 5 the catch-all. You have four classes of 70 and then Class 5 with 54.

Class 5

St. Louis University - 2803
Rockhurst - 2736
Christian Brothers College - 2565
Blue Springs - 2547
Jefferson City - 2500
Hazelwood West - 2268
Marquette - 2223
Joplin - 2216
Lindbergh - 2060
Blue Springs South - 2041
Lee's Summit West - 2037
DeSmet - 2020
Troy Buchanan - 1993
Hazelwood Central - 1966
Ft. Zumwalt West - 1964
Francis Howell - 1947
Francis Howell Central - 1906
Lee's Summit North - 1904
Northwest - 1901
Raymore-Peculiar - 1900
Eureka - 1885
Park Hill - 1877
Lafayette - 1874
Rock Bridge - 1866
Ritenour - 1832
Lee's Summit - 1823
Seckman - 1814
Kickapoo - 1800
McCluer North - 1790
Fox - 1790
Mehlville - 1794
Kirkwood - 1779
Timberland - 1778
Francis Howell North - 1773
Liberty - 1767
Liberty North - 1764
Parkway South - 1740
Nixa - 1733
Pattonville - 1727
St. Joseph Central - 1703
Holt - 1662
Hickman - 1660
Vianney - 1634
Ozark - 1632
Waynesville -1627
Springfield Central - 1612
Park Hill South -1605
Truman - 1605
Raytown - 1600
Oakville - 1550
Staley - 1525
Jackson - 1523
Fort Osage - 1503
Chaminade - 1502

Class 4

Poplar Bluff - 1478
North Kansas City - 1476
Lebanon - 1466
Smith-Cotton - 1466
Ruskin - 1454
Oak Park - 1439
Ft. Zumwalt North - 1437
Branson - 1430
William Chrisman - 1425
Hazelwood East - 1391
Republic - 1389
Battle - 1378
Ft. Zumwalt South - 1370
Glendale - 1361
Carthage - 1356
Belton - 1356
Washington - 1351
Webster Groves - 1351
Parkview -1347
Willard - 1324
Rockwood Summit - 1316
Neosho - 1316
Winnetonka - 1314
Ladue - 1301
Camdenton - 1297
Ft. Zumwalt East - 1276
Rolla - 1273
Parkway West - 1270
Parkway Central - 1263
Liberty (Wentzville) - 1251
Parkway North - 1236
Grandview - 1231
Grain Valley - 1192
McCluer - 1178
Kearney - 1178
Webb City - 1177
McDonald County - 1174
Raytown South - 1168
Gateway - 1148
Farmington - 1143
Riverview Gardens - 1141
Hillsboro - 1140
Platte County - 1106
Cape Central - 1100
West Plains - 1092
Hannibal - 1024
Hillcrest - 1016
Westminster Christian - 1012
Carl Junction - 1006
St. Dominic - 999
Van Horn - 997
DeSoto - 961
Sikeston - 957
Warrenton - 956
Windsor - 949
Marshfield - 940
Warrensburg - 931
St. Mary's - 924
Helias Catholic - 916
Pacific - 910
Union - 908
Clayton - 870
Festus - 870
North County - 897
Harrisonville - 884
MICDS - 874
East (Kansas City) - 843
Smithville - 841
University City - 841
St. Charles - 821

Class 3

Marshall - 818
Bolivar - 804
Excelsior Springs - 791
St. Francis Borgia - 783
Lafayette (St. Joseph) - 783
Benton - 781
Savannah - 780
Nevada - 777
Affton - 773
Priory - 759
Kirksville - 756
St. Clair - 750
Perryville - 744
Moberly - 735
Northeast (Kansas City) - 732
Potosi - 727
Monett - 710
St. Charles West - 710
Jennings - 708
Logan-Rogersville - 700
Center - 696
Lutheran South - 681
Mexico - 675
Confluence Prep Academy - 671
Normandy - 671
Sullivan - 667
Miller Career Academy - 666
Fulton - 655
Oak Grove - 649
Aurora - 639
Pleasant Hill - 639
Ste. Genevieve - 638
Dexter - 633
Reeds Spring - 621
Vashon - 616
Odessa - 615
Central Academy of Excellence - 607
Eldon - 605
Lincoln Prep - 604
Salem - 598
Soldan - 593
Owensville - 591
Cassville - 590
Clinton - 590
Chillicothe - 571
Pembroke Hill - 569
St. Pius X (Kansas City) - 555
John Burroughs - 554
Osage - 551
Cameron - 548
Springfield Catholic - 534
Park Hills Central - 531
Kennett - 526
Roosevelt - 518
Fredericktown - 516
McCluer South-Berkeley - 513
Boonville - 512
Orchard Farm - 504
Missouri Military Academy - 503
Southern Boone - 501
Hollister - 491
Bishop DuBourg - 488
Hogan Prep - 480
Mt. Vernon - 475
Southeast - 474
East Newton - 471
Maryville - 470
St. James - 468
O' Fallon Christian - 465
Lift for Life Academy - 462

Class 2

Buffalo - 458
New Madrid County Central - 457
Richmond - 457
Bayless - 456
Wright City - 454
Lutheran St. Charles - 453
Seneca - 442
Duchesne - 438
Blair Oaks - 430
Macon - 427
Mountain Grove - 425
Ava - 421
Doniphan - 419
Herculaneum - 418
Cuba - 417
California - 416
O'Hara - 412
Forsyth - 409
Centralia - 403
Willow Springs - 402
Winfield - 400
St. Pius X (Festus) - 396
Holden - 396
Father Tolton - 392
Clopton - 388
Warsaw - 388
Lutheran North - 387
Fair Grove - 386
Lamar - 384
Versailles - 384
Carnahan - 383
Lawson - 381
Houston - 380
Hallsville - 377
Montgomery County - 377
North Callaway - 377
Trinity Catholic - 374
Transportation and Law - 370
Bowling Green - 370
Strafford - 360
Sumner - 356
Principia - 356
Trenton - 354
Palmyra - 353
El Dorado Springs - 351
Cardinal Ritter - 347
East Prairie - 342
Summit Christian Academy - 342
Stockton - 339
Grandview - 332
Kelly - 332
Hermann - 328
Mt. View-Liberty - 327
Clever - 324
Lafayette County - 322
Knob Noster - 318
Caruthersville - 316
Highland - 307
Butler - 300
Brookfield - 298
Lathrop - 297
Malden - 296
Clark County - 294
Jefferson - 292
Cole Camp - 280
Charleston - 273
Carrollton - 273
Lexington - 270
Cleveland NJROTC - 269
St. Paul Lutheran (Concordia) - 265

Class 1

University Academy Charter - 265
Bishop LeBlond - 262
South Callaway - 262
Diamond - 261
Sherwood - 260
Brentwood - 245
Monroe City - 244
Portageville - 244
South Harrison - 243
East Buchanan - 240
Penney - 239
Cabool - 236
Ash Grove - 234
Mark Twain - 233
Plattsburg - 229
Sarcoxie - 227
Mid-Buchanan - 226
Scott City - 226
Adrian - 224
Tipton - 219
South Shelby - 217
Marionville - 216
St. Vincent - 194
Valle Catholic - 162
Windsor - 214
Putnam County - 213
Hayti - 211
Pleasant Hope - 211
Skyline - 209
Louisiana - 206
North Platte - 206
Milan - 205
Westran - 205
Marceline - 199
Pierce City - 198
Crest Ridge - 195
Thayer - 195
Gallatin - 194
Fayette - 192
Lone Jack - 191
Scotland County - 190
Archie -188
Chaffee - 188
Schuyler County - 188
Miller - 176
Maysville - 174
West Platte - 170
Osceola - 168
Salisbury - 168
Crystal City - 167
Harrisburg - 167
Van-Far - 164
Knox County - 162
Midway - 159
Lincoln - 151
Liberal - 148
Jasper - 144
Lockwood - 144
Polo - 139
Paris - 136
Concordia - 134
Wellington-Napoleon - 134
Rich Hill - 133
Appleton City - 131
Princeton - 127
Santa Fe - 126
Slater - 119
Sweet Springs - 116
Orrick - 109
Drexel - 102

Class 3 actually looks competitive in this breakdown.

 

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

Class 3 actually looks competitive in this breakdown.

They all do.

Class 5 with CBC, Rockhurst, Blue Springs, Blue Springs South, Jefferson City, Lindbergh, Hazelwood Central, Lee's Summit West, Eureka, Park Hill, Kickapoo, Kirkwood, Lafayette, McCluer North, Liberty, Liberty North, Nixa, Pattonville, Vianney, Staley, Jackson, Fort Osage, Chaminade.

Class 4 is absolutely loaded.

Honestly I think 5 Classes is the best format for a quality playoff, but I also see some definite benefits to (no joke) having ten 32 team Classes.

 

[JNreturns]

They all do.

Class 5 with CBC, Rockhurst, Blue Springs, Blue Springs South, Jefferson City, Lindbergh, Hazelwood Central, Lee's Summit West, Eureka, Park Hill, Kickapoo, Kirkwood, Lafayette, McCluer North, Liberty, Liberty North, Nixa, Pattonville, Vianney, Staley, Jackson, Fort Osage, Chaminade.

Class 4 is absolutely loaded.

Honestly I think 5 Classes is the best format for a quality playoff, but I also see some definite benefits to (no joke) having ten 32 team Classes.

Under the current regime Class1 of course has the biggest differential, BUT Class 4 has the second largest differential from top to bottom. And the results have shown the bottom quartile of the Class doesn't come close. I would be for going to 5 or go to 7. But right now, Class 4 is a joke.

 

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

Under the current regime Class1 of course has the biggest differential, BUT Class 4 has the second largest differential from top to bottom. And the results have shown the bottom quartile of the Class doesn't come close. I would be for going to 5 or go to 7. But right now, Class 4 is a joke.

Idk, but looking at it again, you're right. Class 3 looks stout in that format. Bolivar, Borgia, Affton and St. Clair would make things interesting.

 

[mizzoutiger13]

I’m curious how 7 would look compared to 5 and 6 as well.

 

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

I’m curious how 7 would look compared to 5 and 6 as well.

If someone can get me Capitol City and Jeff City's enrollment info, I'll do a 7 class setup and remove some of the teams that went 8-man.

 

[sw5890]

Honestly I think 5 Classes is the best format for a quality playoff, but I also see some definite benefits to (no joke) having ten 32 team Classes.

Why do you say that? What besides even numbers and shorter playoff road?

 

[cardsbeatwriter]

Under the current regime Class1 of course has the biggest differential, BUT Class 4 has the second largest differential from top to bottom. And the results have shown the bottom quartile of the Class doesn't come close. I would be for going to 5 or go to 7. But right now, Class 4 is a joke.

I can understand why Kansas made the weird move of splitting class 4 into 2 divisions. 4a and 4b

 

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

Why do you say that? What besides even numbers and shorter playoff road?

If the point is to reward more teams for their hard work and potentially help schools build parity and help programs grow by offering a path to championships and more practice time (through longer playoff runs) that don't run through Webb City, Lamar, or Valle Catholic.

In addition, by shortening the playoff by at least one game you can push the start of the season back. One less game with 110 degree heat indexes is a positive thing.

So in summation:

- reward more teams for their hard work (yes that's socialist, I apologize in advance)

- one less ridiculous heat game (player safety)

- more practice time for more teams through extra playoff games (building programs)

- increased parity (shouldn't see the same champions year after year, and could result in better teams overall)

- one less game, could include one more dead week (let the kids have more of a summer) or more practice time availability (either way is good with me)

 

[sw5890]

Yeah I agree. In the current system class 4 seems like a weird conglomerate of schools with some more similar to those in class 5 along with others more similar to those in class 3. The 5 class system seems to naturally break in pretty good groupings.

 

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

Yeah I agree. In the current system class 4 seems like a weird conglomerate of schools much more similar to those in close 5 along with some more similar to those in class 3. The 5 class system seems to naturally break in pretty good groupings.

Keep in mind this was my explanation for ten Classes of 32(ish) teams.

But yeah, 5 breaks up pretty well and (should) be competitive.

 

[sw5890]

If the point is to reward more teams for their hard work and potentially help schools build parity and help programs grow by offering a path to championships and more practice time (through longer playoff runs) that don't run through Webb City, Lamar, or Valle Catholic.

In addition, by shortening the playoff by at least one game you can push the start of the season back. One less game with 110 degree heat indexes is a positive thing.

So in summation:

- reward more teams for their hard work (yes that's socialist, I apologize in advance)

- one less ridiculous heat game (player safety)

- more practice time for more teams through extra playoff games (building programs)

- increased parity (shouldn't see the same champions year after year, and could result in better teams overall)

- one less game, could include one more dead week (let the kids have more of a summer) or more practice time availability (either way is good with me)

10 seems like too many for a state this size but I can't disagree with the points you make. I like the idea of seeing more parity and different schools in the big game but the reality of the day is that the same handful of schools are going to continue to win most of the championships no matter how the system is designed.

Totally dig the idea of shedding a hot august game.

Like I said before, I don't have a huge issue with the current 6 class system other than I think class 4 breaks very unnaturally but it is what it is. Personally I think 5 classes makes more sense but 7 would be fine as well if we want to see a few more teams on the big stage. Some states smaller than Missouri have that many classifications. I believe the largest class in Oklahoma only has 16 or maybe 8 teams. Many of our neighboring states have only a few large schools and a ton of very small to medium sized schools.

 

[USArmyMike]

I'm ok with the current 6 class system though I believe class 6 should be a 48 and class 1 should be the catch all. I think it would really balance out the classes

 

[JNreturns]

I'm ok with the current 6 class system though I believe class 6 should be a 48 and class 1 should be the catch all. I think it would really balance out the classes

THAT would fix SO many problems. Class 1 as a catch all.

 

[Gameday5013]

If someone can get me Capitol City and Jeff City's enrollment info, I'll do a 7 class setup and remove some of the teams that went 8-man.

They should both have enrollments around 1300.

 

[cardsbeatwriter]

I'm ok with the current 6 class system though I believe class 6 should be a 48 and class 1 should be the catch all. I think it would really balance out the classes

Can someone with either more time or enthusiasm than I make a list with this breakdown?

 

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

Can someone with either more time or enthusiasm than I make a list with this breakdown?

I've already done 3 different breakdowns, I'm out.

 

[carthagefan2006]

They should both have enrollments around 1300.

Jefferson City is 1828 and "Capitol City" is not listed.

 

[cardsbeatwriter]

I've already done 3 different breakdowns, I'm out.

Come on you have one more in ya! Get a good nights sleep and hit it first thing in the morning.

 

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

Jefferson City is 1828 and "Capitol City" is not listed.

Jefferson City now has two high schools. Capitol City is the new one. Jeff City's previous enrollment was 2500 so I just split it down the middle.

 

[carthagefan2006]

MSHSAA lists their current enrollment as 1828. 2500 would probably be under the old format. 914 would be split down the middle and would put them tied with Platte City Platte County

 

[Sleepless_in_Jefferson_County]

MSHSAA lists their current enrollment as 1828. 2500 would probably be under the old format. 914 would be split down the middle and would put them tied with Platte City Platte County

Every one of these schools is listed under the old format. This is a best guess using old enrollment numbers.

 

[USArmyMike]

MSHSAA lists their current enrollment as 1828. 2500 would probably be under the old format. 914 would be split down the middle and would put them tied with Platte City Platte County

Where is this listed on Mshsaa's site. I have looked for it and can't find it

 

[USArmyMike]

Can someone with either more time or enthusiasm than I make a list with this breakdown?

Here ya go. I went with Class 5 & 6 with 48, 4, 3, 2 with 64 and the class one as catch all with 43.

Class 6
St. Louis University - 2803
Rockhurst - 2736
Christian Brothers College - 2565
Blue Springs - 2547
Hazelwood West - 2268
Marquette - 2223
Joplin - 2216
Lindbergh - 2060
Blue Springs South - 2041
Lee's Summit West - 2037
DeSmet - 2020
Troy Buchanan - 1993
Hazelwood Central - 1966
Ft. Zumwalt West - 1964
Francis Howell - 1947
Francis Howell Central - 1906
Lee's Summit North - 1904
Northwest - 1901
Raymore-Peculiar - 1900
Eureka - 1885
Park Hill - 1877
Lafayette - 1874
Rock Bridge - 1866
Ritenour - 1832
Lee's Summit - 1823
Seckman - 1814
Kickapoo - 1800
McCluer North - 1790
Fox - 1790
Mehlville - 1794
Kirkwood - 1779
Timberland - 1778
Francis Howell North - 1773
Liberty - 1767
Liberty North - 1764
Parkway South - 1740
Nixa - 1733
Pattonville - 1727
St. Joseph Central - 1703
Holt - 1662
Hickman - 1660
Vianney - 1634
Ozark - 1632
Waynesville -1627
Springfield Central - 1612
Park Hill South -1605
Truman - 1605
Raytown - 1600

Class 5
Oakville - 1550
Staley - 1525
Jackson - 1523
Fort Osage - 1503
Chaminade - 1502
Poplar Bluff - 1478
North Kansas City - 1476
Lebanon - 1466
Smith-Cotton - 1466
Ruskin - 1454
Oak Park - 1439
Ft. Zumwalt North - 1437
Branson - 1430
William Chrisman - 1425
Hazelwood East - 1391
Republic - 1389
Battle - 1378
Ft. Zumwalt South - 1370
Glendale - 1361
Carthage - 1356
Belton - 1356
Washington - 1351
Webster Groves - 1351
Parkview -1347
Willard - 1324
Rockwood Summit - 1316
Neosho - 1316
Winnetonka - 1314
Ladue - 1301
Camdenton - 1297
Ft. Zumwalt East - 1276
Rolla - 1273
Parkway West - 1270
Parkway Central - 1263
Liberty (Wentzville) - 1251
Capitol City - 1250
Jefferson City - 1250
Parkway North - 1236
Grandview - 1231
Grain Valley - 1192
McCluer - 1178
Kearney - 1178
Webb City - 1177
McDonald County - 1174
Raytown South - 1168
Gateway - 1148
Farmington - 1143
Riverview Gardens - 1141


Class 4
Hillsboro - 1140
Platte County - 1106
Cape Central - 1100
West Plains - 1092
Hannibal - 1024
Hillcrest - 1016
Westminster Christian - 1012
Carl Junction - 1006
St. Dominic - 999
Van Horn - 997
DeSoto - 961
Sikeston - 957
Warrenton - 956
Windsor - 949
Marshfield - 940
Warrensburg – 931
St. Mary's - 924
Helias Catholic - 916
Pacific - 910
Union - 908
Clayton - 870
Festus - 870
North County - 897
Harrisonville - 884
MICDS - 874
East (Kansas City) - 843
Smithville - 841
University City - 841
St. Charles - 821
Marshall - 818
Bolivar - 804
Excelsior Springs - 791
St. Francis Borgia - 783
Lafayette (St. Joseph) - 783
Benton - 781
Savannah - 780
Nevada - 777
Affton - 773
Priory - 759
Kirksville - 756
St. Clair - 750
Perryville - 744
Moberly - 735
Northeast (Kansas City) - 732
Potosi – 727 Monett - 710
St. Charles West - 710
Jennings - 708
Logan-Rogersville - 700
Center - 696
Lutheran South - 681
Mexico - 675
Confluence Prep Academy - 671
Normandy - 671
Sullivan - 667
Miller Career Academy - 666
Fulton - 655
Oak Grove - 649
Aurora - 639
Pleasant Hill - 639
Ste. Genevieve - 638
Dexter - 633
Reeds Spring - 621
Vashon – 616
Odessa - 615

Class 3
Central Academy of Excellence - 607
Eldon - 605
Lincoln Prep - 604
Salem - 598
Soldan - 593
Owensville - 591
Cassville - 590
Clinton - 590
Chillicothe - 571
Pembroke Hill - 569
St. Pius X (Kansas City) - 555
John Burroughs - 554
Osage - 551
Cameron - 548
Springfield Catholic - 534
Park Hills Central - 531
Kennett - 526
Roosevelt - 518
Fredericktown - 516
McCluer South-Berkeley - 513
Boonville - 512
Orchard Farm - 504
Missouri Military Academy - 503
Southern Boone - 501
Hollister - 491
Bishop DuBourg - 488
Hogan Prep - 480
Mt. Vernon - 475
Southeast - 474
East Newton - 471
Maryville - 470
St. James - 468
O' Fallon Christian - 465
Lift for Life Academy - 462
Buffalo - 458
New Madrid County Central - 457
Richmond - 457
Bayless - 456
Wright City - 454
Lutheran St. Charles - 453
Seneca - 442
Duchesne - 438
Blair Oaks - 430
Macon - 427
Mountain Grove - 425
Ava - 421
Doniphan - 419
Herculaneum - 418
Cuba - 417
California - 416
O'Hara - 412
Forsyth - 409
Centralia - 403
Willow Springs - 402
Winfield - 400
St. Pius X (Festus) - 396
Holden - 396
Father Tolton - 392
Clopton - 388
Warsaw - 388
Lutheran North - 387
Fair Grove - 386
Lamar – 384
Versailles – 384
Carnahan – 383

Class 2
Lawson - 381
Houston - 380
Hallsville - 377
Montgomery County - 377
North Callaway - 377
Trinity Catholic - 374
Transportation and Law - 370
Bowling Green - 370
Strafford - 360
Sumner - 356
Principia - 356
Trenton - 354
Palmyra - 353
El Dorado Springs - 351
Cardinal Ritter - 347
East Prairie - 342
Summit Christian Academy - 342
Stockton - 339
Grandview - 332
Kelly - 332
Hermann - 328
Mt. View-Liberty - 327
Clever - 324
Lafayette County - 322
Knob Noster - 318
Caruthersville - 316
Highland - 307
Butler - 300
Brookfield - 298
Lathrop - 297
Malden - 296
Clark County - 294
Jefferson - 292
Cole Camp - 280
Charleston - 273
Carrollton - 273
Lexington - 270
Cleveland NJROTC - 269
St. Paul Lutheran (Concordia) - 265
University Academy Charter - 265
Bishop LeBlond - 262
South Callaway - 262
Diamond - 261
Sherwood - 260
Brentwood - 245
Monroe City - 244
Portageville - 244
South Harrison - 243
East Buchanan - 240
Penney - 239
Cabool - 236
Ash Grove - 234
Mark Twain - 233
Plattsburg - 229
Sarcoxie - 227
Mid-Buchanan - 226
Scott City - 226
Adrian - 224
Tipton - 219
South Shelby - 217
Marionville - 216
Putnam County - 213
Hayti - 211
Windsor - 214


Class 1
Pleasant Hope - 211
Skyline - 209
Louisiana - 206
North Platte - 206
Milan - 205
Westran - 205
Marceline - 199
Pierce City - 198
Crest Ridge - 195
Thayer - 195
Gallatin – 194
St. Vincent - 194
Fayette - 192
Lone Jack - 191
Scotland County - 190
Archie -188
Chaffee - 188
Schuyler County - 188
Miller - 176
Maysville - 174
West Platte - 170
Osceola - 168
Salisbury - 168
Crystal City - 167
Harrisburg - 167
Van-Far - 164 Valle Catholic - 162
Knox County - 162
Midway - 159
Lincoln - 151
Liberal - 148
Jasper - 144
Lockwood - 144
Polo - 139
Paris - 136
Concordia - 134
Wellington-Napoleon - 134
Rich Hill - 133
Appleton City - 131
Princeton - 127
Santa Fe - 126
Slater - 119
Sweet Springs - 116

 

[Gameday5013]

MSHSAA lists their current enrollment as 1828. 2500 would probably be under the old format. 914 would be split down the middle and would put them tied with Platte City Platte County

Jeff City will still actually be Class 6 this year with their enrollment staying in the 2500-2600 range. When Capital City opens the 2019-2020 school year it will only be freshman and sophomores. The 2020-2021 school year it will be freshman, sophomores and juniors. So the schools won't be evenly split until the 2021-2022 school year, by that school year there is a projected enrollment of 2600-2700 students in both high schools combined. So enrollment will try and be split as evenly as possible, so somewhere between 1300 and 1350, give or take a few depending on how even they can split the schools.

 

[JNreturns]

A 1.85 size differential in Class 4...STILL. Not quite twice the size...but almost. How about classifications actually based on size? Don't worry about the # of schools.