What does a 20 win season mean to most teams and schools? Sometimes I think 10 win season are more successful then 20 win seasons.
20 win season
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Depends on if that 20 win season ends with a state run or if that 10 win season ends up with a state run. I know one year, on the girls side, we won 20 games and was seeded 4th in districts. Lost to state champions in the semi-finals by 3. Does that mean we had a bad season? On the boys side, I had a team that won 4 games all season. Played the 1 seed down to the wire in first round of districts. Is that a bad or good season? That 4 wins was more than the 3 years total previously. Just depends on how you look at the season and the expectations going in.
St. James lost to a one win team in districts in 2003. Coach resigned and the new coach (Ben smith, still HC today) won districts in 2004 for the first time since 1978, won districts again in 2006, lost in elite 8 to Sikeston.
In 2003, I think STJ finished 12-15? or 15-12? but it was a bad season because of that district loss.
2004 we went 17-10? Although we won districts, it was a great season. Went into the 4th quarter up by more than 10 and lost to Lutheran south in the sweet 16
2006 was a season with sky high expectations before it began. I have no memory of the W-L record but it was a bit of s downer because we went into the Sikeston game with a huge confidence bubble, believing we would win. Came that close to beating Sikeston and it goes down as a failure on the players eyes but for fans and parents, it was a success. Made it that far for a program that isn't used to playing that late into the year
In 2003, I think STJ finished 12-15? or 15-12? but it was a bad season because of that district loss.
2004 we went 17-10? Although we won districts, it was a great season. Went into the 4th quarter up by more than 10 and lost to Lutheran south in the sweet 16
2006 was a season with sky high expectations before it began. I have no memory of the W-L record but it was a bit of s downer because we went into the Sikeston game with a huge confidence bubble, believing we would win. Came that close to beating Sikeston and it goes down as a failure on the players eyes but for fans and parents, it was a success. Made it that far for a program that isn't used to playing that late into the year
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If you're a high school fan or coach, and you judge success and failure by "making a state run", you're going to be really unsuccessful for much of your fandom or coaching career. Unless you're one of about a dozen or so teams that seem to have figured out how to do it annually.
Sikeston vs. St. James article....Shockley was a stud. St. James finished 19-10. Sikeston ended up taking second, losing to Borgia (Alex Moosmann) in the title game.
SHS notches quarterfinal victory over St. James
Monday, March 6, 2006
Derek James
Sikeston Bulldogs hoist senior point guard Kash Bratcher during celebration of their victory.
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FARMINGTON -- It's been 11 years since Sikeston's last final four appearance in boys basketball.
Now the Bulldogs are going back to Columbia for the second time in school history.
Sikeston defeated a fundamentally sound St. James squad 62-54 on Saturday night in a Class 4 quarterfinal game in front of more than 3,000 fans at the Farmington Civic Center to advance to the state semifinals.
The Bulldogs (22-6) will take on Ozark (21-9) on Friday at 12:10 p.m. at Mizzou Arena. Ozark won its quarterfinal game 46-32 against Logan-Rogersville.
Sikeston freshman Michael Porter led the Bulldogs with 20 points.
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The Bulldogs last made it to the Show Me Showdown in 1995 when they were in the state's largest classification in 4A.
MSHSAA went to a five-class format in 2003.
"This is a great moment," said Sikeston coach Gregg Holifield, who is in his eighth year as head coach. "We've had some teams here that have been good and some have struggled. But all the teams are special and this particular group just pulled together as a team. Our kids have worked hard all season and they've gotten better every day through their work ethic. It's a great group that comes in every day focused.
"The players deserve all the credit because they've really meshed together as a team. They're very unselfish and you can see that they really like each other. You can't say enough about the character of our players."
Sikeston's Ray Rodgers toes up for two of his 13 points.
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Saturday's game was a nailbiter, but the Bulldogs' superior depth and rebounding ability helped hold off the smaller St. James team.
The Tigers (19-10) actually led for most of the night as Sikeston never could seem to get over the hump.
But the Bulldogs finally snared the lead late in the third quarter and they never trailed again.
Sikeston steadily pulled away in the fourth quarter, withstood one final St. James run, and sealed it from the free throw line in the final minute.
"I'm telling you, they are impressive," said Holifield of St. James. "They pass it, catch it and handle it as well as any team we've seen all year. They do a great job of utilizing their strengths and in the first half they were hurting us in some areas."
Namely with superb ball movement and outside shooting ability.
The Bulldogs' pressure defense didn't seem to faze the Tigers much in the first three quarters.
But St. James, already thin on depth with a starter out with a knee injury, started to wear down late in the third quarter.
"We just kind of ran out of gas there," said third-year St. James coach Ben Smith. "Sikeston is a great team and they just kept working on us and working on us. They're strong and quick and they take a toll on you. I felt like we played as hard as we could but we just got gassed. They're right up there with some of the top teams we've played. Definitely as quick as any team we played and as deep as any team we played. They're a very good ballclub."
Sikeston took a 3-0 lead on a Kash Bratcher 3-pointer to start off the game, but the Tigers took control of things from that point.
St. James hit three 3-pointers in the first quarter, led by as much as 15-9, and took an 18-17 lead at the end of the period.
The Tigers led for most of the second quarter as well. Beard tied it at 30-30 on a 3-pointer, but St. James connected on two straight baskets to take a 34-30 lead into halftime.
St. James senior Chad Shockley scored 18 of his game-high 27 points in the first half, including 8-of-9 free throw shooting.
But Smith still wasn't comfortable.
"I didn't feel real good in the first half because we were playing well but we couldn't get a lead like I would have liked," said Smith. "We just hovered around two or four. They just came out with a little more energy in the second half than us."
Things didn't appear too much different in the third quarter as the Tigers once again pulled ahead 41-36 following a Shockley 3-pointer with 2:50 left in the period.
But that's when Sikeston made its run.
The Bulldogs finished the third quarter on an 8-0 run. Beard answered Shockley's 3-pointer with a trey of his own to start things off.
Then reserve forward Ray Rodgers took over.
The bulky, 6-foot-1 junior pulled the Bulldogs to 41-40 with a free throw. He then gave Sikeston its first lead since the first possession of the game with an offensive putback to make it 42-41 with 1:05 left.
With 38 seconds left, Rodgers came through again, scoring an inside basket to push the lead to 44-41.
The Bulldogs nearly extended the lead even further as Blake Taylor picked up a steal with time winding down. He raced against the clock the length of the floor and made the layup but it was ruled that the buzzer had sounded before the ball left his hands.
Even though the basket was waved off, the momentum had clearly shifted.
Rodgers picked up where he left off in the fourth. He made two free throws to give Sikeston a 46-41 lead.
After a St. James basket, Rodgers converted an old-fashioned 3-point play to give the Bulldogs a 49-43 advantage.
Rodgers eventually fouled out, but after the damage was assessed, he scored 10 points in a matter of three minutes of game time.
He finished with 13 points, tying his season high, and eight rebounds.
The Bulldogs pushed the lead to 55-46 on an offensive putback by Beard with five minutes left.
Just when it appeared Sikeston was ready to put the finishing touches on the game, St. James had one last gasp.
As the Bulldogs tried to run some clock, the Tigers turned up the defensive intensity.
A free throw and a pair layups following steals trimmed the lead to 55-51 with 2:10 left.
"That's been us all year long," said Smith. "We've had deficits up to 20 points that we've come back and won. These kids just don't give up."
The Tigers' last chance to get back in it came with 1:24 left, but Shockley missed two free throws that could have made it a one-possession game.
Sikeston then hit 7-8 free throws in the final 1:18 to ice the victory.
Michael Porter had four straight, including two with 23 seconds left to give Sikeston its biggest lead of the night at 62-52.
The freshman finished with a team-high 20 points with eight rebounds.
"I'm here for coach Holifield and the team," said Porter. "We've got teammates that share the ball. We don't care about points or none of that other stuff. We just want the ring on our finger. That's all we want."
Beard added 17 points, including a season-high three 3-pointers, and grabbed 10 rebounds.
The Bulldogs also dominated the game in the rebounding department, out-rebounding St. James 41-29, many of which came on the offensive end.
Said Smith: "Offensive boards they really killed us. Their kids are strong, they jump well and they get good position. We didn't block out like we should have and that's what happens."
Plus, Sikeston's defense and depth must have taken its toll as the Tigers couldn't get outside shots to fall in the second half. They made four 3-pointers in the first half, but just one in the second half.
St. James had just 20 second-half points.
"They just killed us on the inside game and we didn't shoot it well enough to counter it," said Smith. "If we didn't shoot well, we knew we would be in trouble. I had a feeling they were going to start pounding it inside in the second half. We tried to make some adjustments at halftime but they didn't work out the way we would've liked it to."
Moore finished with six points and had eight rebounds. Bratcher had five points and eight assists.
Isaac Porter had three rebounds and four steals, who, along with Taylor, drew the tough assignment of Shockley for most of the game.
Shockley had 13 rebounds to go with his big scoring night. Scott Thompson chipped in with 10 points and Austin Walls added seven points.
The Bulldogs turned the ball over a whopping 22 times compared to just 10 turnovers for St. James.
Sikeston has now won 13 straight games, the longest such streak since that fateful 1995 season.
"At one time we were 9-6 this year and playing good people," said Holifield. "But I could see us at that point getting better and becoming a team and starting to play off each other. They've just decided that we're not going to lose. Our players listen so well and they try to do things right."
St. James 18 16 7 13 -- 54
Sikeston 17 13 14 18 -- 62
ST. JAMES (54) -- Chad Shockley 27, Scott Thompson 10, Austin Walls 7, Damon Thomas 4, J.J. Jackson 4, Blake Woolsey 2. FG 14, FT 11-19, F 19. (3-pointers: Thompson 2, Walls 2, Shockley 1. Fouled out: Shockley).
SIKESTON (62) -- Michael Porter 20, Julian Beard 17, Ray Rodgers 13, Rod Moore 6, Kash Bratcher 5, Isaac Porter 1. FG 17, FT 16-22, F 20. (3-pointers: Beard 3, Bratcher 1. Fouled out: Rodgers).
SHS notches quarterfinal victory over St. James
Monday, March 6, 2006
Derek James
Sikeston Bulldogs hoist senior point guard Kash Bratcher during celebration of their victory.
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FARMINGTON -- It's been 11 years since Sikeston's last final four appearance in boys basketball.
Now the Bulldogs are going back to Columbia for the second time in school history.
Sikeston defeated a fundamentally sound St. James squad 62-54 on Saturday night in a Class 4 quarterfinal game in front of more than 3,000 fans at the Farmington Civic Center to advance to the state semifinals.
The Bulldogs (22-6) will take on Ozark (21-9) on Friday at 12:10 p.m. at Mizzou Arena. Ozark won its quarterfinal game 46-32 against Logan-Rogersville.
Sikeston freshman Michael Porter led the Bulldogs with 20 points.
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The Bulldogs last made it to the Show Me Showdown in 1995 when they were in the state's largest classification in 4A.
MSHSAA went to a five-class format in 2003.
"This is a great moment," said Sikeston coach Gregg Holifield, who is in his eighth year as head coach. "We've had some teams here that have been good and some have struggled. But all the teams are special and this particular group just pulled together as a team. Our kids have worked hard all season and they've gotten better every day through their work ethic. It's a great group that comes in every day focused.
"The players deserve all the credit because they've really meshed together as a team. They're very unselfish and you can see that they really like each other. You can't say enough about the character of our players."
Sikeston's Ray Rodgers toes up for two of his 13 points.
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Saturday's game was a nailbiter, but the Bulldogs' superior depth and rebounding ability helped hold off the smaller St. James team.
The Tigers (19-10) actually led for most of the night as Sikeston never could seem to get over the hump.
But the Bulldogs finally snared the lead late in the third quarter and they never trailed again.
Sikeston steadily pulled away in the fourth quarter, withstood one final St. James run, and sealed it from the free throw line in the final minute.
"I'm telling you, they are impressive," said Holifield of St. James. "They pass it, catch it and handle it as well as any team we've seen all year. They do a great job of utilizing their strengths and in the first half they were hurting us in some areas."
Namely with superb ball movement and outside shooting ability.
The Bulldogs' pressure defense didn't seem to faze the Tigers much in the first three quarters.
But St. James, already thin on depth with a starter out with a knee injury, started to wear down late in the third quarter.
"We just kind of ran out of gas there," said third-year St. James coach Ben Smith. "Sikeston is a great team and they just kept working on us and working on us. They're strong and quick and they take a toll on you. I felt like we played as hard as we could but we just got gassed. They're right up there with some of the top teams we've played. Definitely as quick as any team we played and as deep as any team we played. They're a very good ballclub."
Sikeston took a 3-0 lead on a Kash Bratcher 3-pointer to start off the game, but the Tigers took control of things from that point.
St. James hit three 3-pointers in the first quarter, led by as much as 15-9, and took an 18-17 lead at the end of the period.
The Tigers led for most of the second quarter as well. Beard tied it at 30-30 on a 3-pointer, but St. James connected on two straight baskets to take a 34-30 lead into halftime.
St. James senior Chad Shockley scored 18 of his game-high 27 points in the first half, including 8-of-9 free throw shooting.
But Smith still wasn't comfortable.
"I didn't feel real good in the first half because we were playing well but we couldn't get a lead like I would have liked," said Smith. "We just hovered around two or four. They just came out with a little more energy in the second half than us."
Things didn't appear too much different in the third quarter as the Tigers once again pulled ahead 41-36 following a Shockley 3-pointer with 2:50 left in the period.
But that's when Sikeston made its run.
The Bulldogs finished the third quarter on an 8-0 run. Beard answered Shockley's 3-pointer with a trey of his own to start things off.
Then reserve forward Ray Rodgers took over.
The bulky, 6-foot-1 junior pulled the Bulldogs to 41-40 with a free throw. He then gave Sikeston its first lead since the first possession of the game with an offensive putback to make it 42-41 with 1:05 left.
With 38 seconds left, Rodgers came through again, scoring an inside basket to push the lead to 44-41.
The Bulldogs nearly extended the lead even further as Blake Taylor picked up a steal with time winding down. He raced against the clock the length of the floor and made the layup but it was ruled that the buzzer had sounded before the ball left his hands.
Even though the basket was waved off, the momentum had clearly shifted.
Rodgers picked up where he left off in the fourth. He made two free throws to give Sikeston a 46-41 lead.
After a St. James basket, Rodgers converted an old-fashioned 3-point play to give the Bulldogs a 49-43 advantage.
Rodgers eventually fouled out, but after the damage was assessed, he scored 10 points in a matter of three minutes of game time.
He finished with 13 points, tying his season high, and eight rebounds.
The Bulldogs pushed the lead to 55-46 on an offensive putback by Beard with five minutes left.
Just when it appeared Sikeston was ready to put the finishing touches on the game, St. James had one last gasp.
As the Bulldogs tried to run some clock, the Tigers turned up the defensive intensity.
A free throw and a pair layups following steals trimmed the lead to 55-51 with 2:10 left.
"That's been us all year long," said Smith. "We've had deficits up to 20 points that we've come back and won. These kids just don't give up."
The Tigers' last chance to get back in it came with 1:24 left, but Shockley missed two free throws that could have made it a one-possession game.
Sikeston then hit 7-8 free throws in the final 1:18 to ice the victory.
Michael Porter had four straight, including two with 23 seconds left to give Sikeston its biggest lead of the night at 62-52.
The freshman finished with a team-high 20 points with eight rebounds.
"I'm here for coach Holifield and the team," said Porter. "We've got teammates that share the ball. We don't care about points or none of that other stuff. We just want the ring on our finger. That's all we want."
Beard added 17 points, including a season-high three 3-pointers, and grabbed 10 rebounds.
The Bulldogs also dominated the game in the rebounding department, out-rebounding St. James 41-29, many of which came on the offensive end.
Said Smith: "Offensive boards they really killed us. Their kids are strong, they jump well and they get good position. We didn't block out like we should have and that's what happens."
Plus, Sikeston's defense and depth must have taken its toll as the Tigers couldn't get outside shots to fall in the second half. They made four 3-pointers in the first half, but just one in the second half.
St. James had just 20 second-half points.
"They just killed us on the inside game and we didn't shoot it well enough to counter it," said Smith. "If we didn't shoot well, we knew we would be in trouble. I had a feeling they were going to start pounding it inside in the second half. We tried to make some adjustments at halftime but they didn't work out the way we would've liked it to."
Moore finished with six points and had eight rebounds. Bratcher had five points and eight assists.
Isaac Porter had three rebounds and four steals, who, along with Taylor, drew the tough assignment of Shockley for most of the game.
Shockley had 13 rebounds to go with his big scoring night. Scott Thompson chipped in with 10 points and Austin Walls added seven points.
The Bulldogs turned the ball over a whopping 22 times compared to just 10 turnovers for St. James.
Sikeston has now won 13 straight games, the longest such streak since that fateful 1995 season.
"At one time we were 9-6 this year and playing good people," said Holifield. "But I could see us at that point getting better and becoming a team and starting to play off each other. They've just decided that we're not going to lose. Our players listen so well and they try to do things right."
St. James 18 16 7 13 -- 54
Sikeston 17 13 14 18 -- 62
ST. JAMES (54) -- Chad Shockley 27, Scott Thompson 10, Austin Walls 7, Damon Thomas 4, J.J. Jackson 4, Blake Woolsey 2. FG 14, FT 11-19, F 19. (3-pointers: Thompson 2, Walls 2, Shockley 1. Fouled out: Shockley).
SIKESTON (62) -- Michael Porter 20, Julian Beard 17, Ray Rodgers 13, Rod Moore 6, Kash Bratcher 5, Isaac Porter 1. FG 17, FT 16-22, F 20. (3-pointers: Beard 3, Bratcher 1. Fouled out: Rodgers).
Interesting approach. Agree to disagree. And I've been on the bench for three quarterfinals. Disappointment doesn't = define, IMHO.
You're welcome....I had to remove a lot of the player quotes and a few other items to get it to fit. There is a 1,000-word limit on posts. Who knew? lol
But yes, it was a heck of a game. St. James wasn't no joke.
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What has happened to cause the district drought? I remember their coach seemed like a good one.
Lack of elite talent like they had then and no "one" player who is greater than the rest. They have winning seasons consistently but just can't get over the hill to be good enough
Whatever happened to Shockley? He was a player. Who are the top teams in their district typically?
Here's the preview article on that game with St. James
Bulldogs one win from the Final Four
Friday, March 3, 2006
Derek James
FARMINGTON -- It's been 11 years since the Sikeston Bulldogs have made it this deep in the state playoffs.
The last time was in 1995 when the Bulldogs reached the Class 4A Quarterfinals where they defeated Hazelwood Central to reach the Show Me Showdown in Columbia.
After a 64-45 victory against DeSoto in Wednesday's sectional round, Sikeston (21-6) is back in the quarterfinals where they will take on St. James tomorrow night at 8:15 p.m. at the Farmington Civic Center.
The St. James Tigers (19-9) will be one of the few teams on Sikeston's schedule that are at a size disadvantage.
But what they lack in height, they make up for with precision offense, tremendous 3-point shooting and quickness.
"They're a good team," said Sikeston coach Gregg Holifield, whose team has won 12 straight games. "They're quick, they handle the ball well. They have a real good player in (Chad) Shockley. They like to spread you out and they do a lot of good things offensively. Plus they're a solid man-to-man defensive team."
Some have described St. James' offense as similar to Princeton, utilizing backdoor cuts and screening to offset pressure defense.
In other words, it's the perfect type of offense to counter Sikeston's pressure defense.
"We're going to have to guard them because they shoot the 3 extremely well," said Holifield. "But they're also good at spreading you out and backdoor cutting. They like to dribble-penetrate and kick for the 3."
The Tigers have two players that have hit more than 40 3-pointers this season and four other players that have made at least 16 treys.
"For the last several years we've tended to have pretty good shooting teams," said St. James coach Ben Smith. "This year we've been real streaky and other times we've been real hot. We do shoot a lot of them but we almost have to because of our size. We kind of use it as an equalizer. When we get an open look, we'll take it if it's there."
St. James is led by 6-foot, 200-pound senior Chad Shockley who leads the team with 15.3 points per game and 9.2 rebounds per game.
Austin Walls, a 6-foot junior averages 12.2 ppg and leads the team with 43 steals this year. He's also the team's top free throw shooter and is second in 3-pointers made (45).
Five-foot-10 junior J.J. Jackson scores 9.0 ppg and Scott Thompson, the team's top 3-point shooter, scores 8.3 ppg.
The Tigers, however, were dealt a blow in the district tournament when 6-3, 205-pound junior Zane Garr went down for the season with a knee injury. He is the team's tallest player and second best rebounder.
Matt Wools has filled Garr's starting position. While he doesn't possess as much size at 5-10, he is an accurate 3-point shooter, hitting 41 percent.
Damon Thomas, a 6-1 sophomore, has seen increased playing time since the injury. He averages 4.4 ppg and is third on the team with 5.2 rpg. He dislocated his ring finger in Wednesday's sectional game but should be ready to go for game time.
Blake Woolsey, a 5-11 sophomore, comes off the bench and provides strong outside shooting.
"We're not real big -- we're pretty quick and we've got good guard play," said Smith. "We depend on our guards to do an awful lot especially with the injury to our biggest guy. We've had to adjust accordingly since then."
Smith says he's received plenty of information on Sikeston and knows his team will have to prepare for a team that may be equally as quick as his own.
"Looks to me like they put an awful lot of pressure on you defensively and they're able to get out in transition and score a lot of points," said Smith. "In some respects we match up well with them. From what I've seen from them, they seem to be very well-coached and a really intense defensive style. We haven't played a whole lot of teams that have been as quick as us this year and I would imagine that they probably haven't either."
St. James has won nine district championships with this year's being its second in the last three years.
The Tigers have had playoff success before, winning a 2A state championship in 1976 and have had three other semifinal appearances.
The Tigers have won eight of their last nine games, including Wednesday's upset victory against state-ranked Kennedy, 49-48 in overtime. There are no common opponents between St. James and Sikeston.
"Their record is misleading because they've played good people," said Holifield. "Of the games they've lost, most of them were close games. They are a good team and we're going to have to play well to beat them."
The Bulldogs' Michael Porter will be the tallest player on the court tomorrow night. The 6-3 freshman averages 15 ppg and 7 rpg.
Julian Beard averages 13 ppg followed up by Rod Moore's 12 ppg. Senior Kash Bratcher averages 10 ppg and Isaac Porter pumps in 9 ppg.
Ray Rodgers, Blake Taylor, Cortne Beasley and Josh Porter all see significant playing time off the bench.
"We're going to have to be patient on offense and get good shot selection," said Holifield. "We need to try to pound the ball inside and get easy buckets. I think we were a little jittery the other night against DeSoto. I think our shot selection wasn't very good in the first half. I thought in the second half we settled down and played pretty well. I feel like we'll play better Saturday than we did on Wednesday."
Shockley played college football at MS&T, graduated and now teaches at Rolla and is an assistant football coach there. St. James was moved to class 3 soon after. There is a boys and girls town campus just outside of town and those students were always considered to be part of the St. James district although they have their own school campus and not allowed to play sports for the STJ district. Since moving to class 3, they've been in distict 9 every year. Fatima is our nemesis. This year MSHSAA really flipped districts around. We had Father Tolton, Soithern Boone, Fatima, hermann, and Blair Oaks in our district. STJ lost the district final 4 years ago to Fatima, who I think went into the final 4. The game before Fatima was the high scoring game against Cuba, STJ won 104-102 in regulation
St. James never has height still to date and have to play with quickness and sharp shooting as their strengths. The 3 ball is still their game. STJ doesn't grow players taller than 6'3
Interesting. Thanks for the info. Sikeston rarely ever has height either. When we won state in 2011 our tallest player was 6-2. We finally got a little size this year with a 6-6 soph.....although our guards were small (between 5'8", 5'9", 5'10", 5'11"). I always get asked "where's our height?".....I don't have answers for it except we got a bunch of short people in our town lol.
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If you play 24-26 regular season games and win 20 of them, that's a damn good season. Although, it depends on the expectations. Kickapoo wasn't happy going 26-2 in '01-'02, because they lost early to Neosho. Same deal happened in '07-'08, they blew an 18-point second half lead to Ozark in the district final and a 23-5 season suddenly became a disappointment. I know because of a certain team's lack of post-season success (relative to their regular season success) that if expectations aren't met, it really doesn't matter how many games you win. Also, the media (New-Leader, O-Zone, etc.) put so much emphasis on post-season success that I don't think the kids feel as if they've had a good season unless they make a deep run in the playoffs. Glendale went 20-7 this season against a very strong schedule (minus St. Louis Christian - I don't have a W-L record for them, our opponents went 386-269 this season with Kickapoo still playing), but because we lost early, who cares about that 20-7 season? I do, but I don't think many do. Playing a 29-3 Archbishop Carroll squad to a one-point game in Florida, beating a 22-6 Francis Howell team by 20 points, ending a five-game losing streak to Ozark doesn't seem to mean much in the end if you don't win in the post-season.
No, unfortunately I won't be there Carl. I'll be paying attention though and will look for you on TV! I hate that I won't get to chat with you and Char and Swish again this year. Hopefully some day down the road we will.
Three years ago we won 20 at Valle and lost to Scott County Central in the elite 8 in a very close game. I believe most people here thought we had a very successful season. This season Coach Noble won 13 at Valle and with what he had to work with I thought he had a great season. So I believe it's a matter of what were the expectations of the team to begin with that helps to measure the success of the season.
Here is how I think programs should measure success. Set your goals that you think are obtainable. Do you reach or exceed these goals, if so then its successful. If you fail to meet these goals then its not so successful. If your goal is to win districts and you lose in the first round you will probably be unhappy with the season no matter how many games you won or lost in the regular season.
No. Two were blowouts. One we were up 6 at half and lost by 2. That one was a hard pill to swallow, but it certainly didn't define the season.
He's also Rolla's 8th grade bball coach too. Saw him this year at an 8th grade game here. Had a quick little visit about that STJ team. That was my first year at STC. He was certainly fun to watch, but a real b*&^# to scheme against.
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