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The State of MoSports

Well, preppys. Like I said on Friday. I was taking the weekend off and gonna re-evaluate on Monday. Bottom line, it's bad. Very bad. The bots are no longer just posting about drugs. But many other things. Some now have profile pictures. One even followed @thetophat2021 !!

So that brings us to next steps. @cardsfan200306 made a back up site. If this doesnt stop, we might have to move there. We could also move to another forum on MoSports. Certainly this has to stop at some point??

In the meantime, I'll still battle the bots as much as I can.

Class 5 District Championship Projections as of week 7

All projections are using Calpreps to project the score of a championship game between the current top 2 seeds in each district. Have fun debating boys!!

District 1
Cardinal Ritter over Central (Cape...) 35 - 7

District 2
Eureka over Lafayette (Wildwood) 21 - 17

District 3
MICDS over Hazelwood East 21 - 7

District 4
FZN over FZW 31 - 20

District 5
Helias over Capital City 31 - 14

District 6
Republic over Branson 28 - 27

District 7
Carthage over Neosho 35 - 21

District 8
Platte County over St. Pius X (Kansas City) 38 - 28

That Republic/Branson game should be a really good one!

Class 1 District Championship Projections as of week 7

All projections are using Calpreps to project the score of a championship game between the current top 2 seeds in each district. Have fun debating boys!!

District 1
St. Vincent over Crystal City 55 - 3

District 2
Tipton over Salisbury 26 - 13

District 3
Marionville over Adrian 31 - 26

District 4
Penney over Milan 28 - 10

That Marionville over Adrian game is a big district championship game. Looking forward to it!

High School Football Stats 101

This post is meant to be educational, not create controversy, point fingers or blame anyone. If anything, the intent is to engage in a conversation to help people who keep stats on Friday nights improve their stat keeping which in this day and age of numbers has become increasingly important. Earlier today I read a few paragraphs from a Southwest Missouri media outlet recap of a game last Friday and the stats quoted in the recap were so inaccurate, it ruined the integrity of the entire story.

With that said, here are a few pointers that are often turned into mistakes (please feel free to add more to this list as it far from all encompassing) I am not the end all, be all of stat keeping, I'm still learning as I see things happen, but I do enjoy a good conversation on keeping stats and records:

1, Any time an offensive team takes a knee, the offense is credited with a team carry for a loss of one yard. Doesn't matter if the quarterback takes a knee in the shotgun (the bane of my existence, why o' why do teams feel the need to do that) however, it is still a team carry for -1 yard loss. Likewise, when a team spikes the ball to stop the clock, it is a team pass for one attempt, incomplete, no yards.

2, In the event of a bad snap over the head of a quarterback, running back, punter, etc., this is a TEAM carry for the loss of the yards on the play. It is not credited to the offensive player who recovers the ball at the spot. If the offensive player recovers the bad snap and picks up positive yards, it is indeed credited to the individual for the positive yards, negative yards is credited as a TEAM carry.

3, Fumble snaps, fumble carries, fumbles period are credited to either the person who fumbled the ball, or the person who either created the fumble with a bad pitch or toss.

4, On plays where there is a penalty (this is where mistakes are often made) the spot of the penalty is the most important component to scoring the play. If the penalty occurs and is marked off from the line of scrimmage or behind the line of scrimmage, then there is no yards/carries/attempts to be credited to the individual. HOWEVER, if on 1st and 10 at the 20, the ball carrier gains five yards, but a holding penalty occurs at the 17, the ball carrier is credited for a carry for 3 yards, the team is penalized 10 yards from the spot of the foul at the 17, moving the ball back to the 27 making it 1st and 17 at the 27. If the penalty was three yards behind the line of scrimmage, the team is penalized 13 yards and it is 1st and 23 at the 33.
SCOREKEEPERS -- when in doubt, write down or note the spot of the foul and also where they mark it off from. Often times in the confusion of the play and waiting for the official to announce it, scorekeepers will miss where they marked the ball and/or where they walked the penalty from. Two weeks ago when Hillcrest played at Carl Junction, I was lost on an illegal forward pass penalty (it had been so long since I was scoring a game with an illegal forward pass called I forgot the proper scoring on it) as it turns out, it is a 10 yard penalty from the spot of the foul, which in this case was marked one yard past the line of scrimmage, the quarterback GETS a one yard carry on the play, then the team is penalized 10 yards from the spot and the loss of down.

5, In high school scoring, return yards are for fumble returns, interception returns and punt returns. Kickoff return yardage is not kept in high school stats. Teams may keep it and use it, but it is not part of an official high school box score. College and pros do keep kickoff return yards as a team stat.

6, PAT plays do not count toward team or individual stats INCLUDING PENALTIES unless the penalty is assessed on the kickoff after the PAT.

7, The hitch and pitch is a play that gives scorekeepers nightmares ... the receiver who caught the pass gets credited for the reception and the yards to the spot of the catch, the pitch man gets credit for receiving yards from the spot of the initial catch until he is tackled or end zone, but does not get credit for a reception (so in other words it is possible for an offensive player to have 0 receptions and 32 yards receiving) while the quarterback gets the attempt, the completion and all the yards.

Here is an example of what a high school box score should look like (the only difference is I have added the scoring drive info at the end of each touchdown with number of plays, yards the drive covered and time of possession)

Seneca, 56-7
At Bulldog Stadium
Seneca 7 28 7 14 – 56
Carl Junction 0 7 0 0 – 7
First Quarter
Sen–Kaden Clouse 22 run (Drew Sherwood kick), 3:57 (6 plays, 96 yards, 2:56 TOP)
Second Quarter
Sen–Roman Miller 3 run (kick failed), 11:24 (7 plays, 87 yards, 2:17 TOP)
Sen–Brodie Probert 3 run (Clouse run), 9:48 (1 play, 3 yards, :05 TOP)
Sen–Hagan Ginger 39 pass from Clouse (Sherwood kick), 6:21 (4 plays, 47 yards, 2:25)
Sen–Probert 51 run (Sherwood kick), 2:41 (4 plays, 70 yards, :59 TOP)
CJ–Jaxton Wobken 5 pass from Mason Gilbert (Bryant Hanks kick), :25 (6 plays, 26 yards, :45 TOP)
Third Quarter
Sen–Ginger 31 pass from Clouse (Sherwood kick), 10:14 (4 plays, 49 yards, 1:46 TOP)
Fourth Quarter
Sen–Probert 65 run (Sherwood kick), 11:45 (1 play, 65 yards, :15 TOP)
Sen–Brant Laughlin 14 run (Sherwood kick), 2:40 (4 plays, 41 yards, 3:03 TOP)
TEAM STATISTICS
Sen CJ
First downs 17 13
Rushes-yards 30-409 30-100
Passes 2-6-1 13-28-2
Passing yards 70 106
Return yards 42 23
Punts-avg. 0-0 4-36.3
Fumbles-lost 2-0 0-0
Penalties-yards 6-55 3-30
INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS
RUSHING – Seneca, Miller 10-58, Clouse 8-116, Probert 4-126, Tyrone Harris 3-86, Laughlin 3-32, Silas Ball 1-9, team 1-(-18); Carl Junction, Marcus Lopez-Durman 15-64, K.J. Harms 4-25, Tony Stewart 4-16, Tadem Jones 2-4, Burke Diskin 4-(-3), Gilbert 1-(-6).
PASSING – Seneca, Clouse 2-6-1-70, Probert 0-0-0-0; Carl Junction, Gilbert 12-27-2-101, Diskin 1-1-0-5.
RECEIVING – Seneca, Ginger 2-70; Carl Junction, Wobken 4-34, Maxwell Goddard 3-30, Jett Mills 1-13, Braxton Jones 1-7, Aidan Streight 1-7, Tony Stewart 1-6, T.Jones 1-4, Hanks 1-5.

Class 3 District Championship Projections as of week 7

All projections are using Calpreps to project the score of a championship game between the current top 2 seeds in each district. Have fun debating boys!!

District 1
Dexter over Central (Park Hills) 35 - 21

District 2
St. Francis Borgia over John Burroughs 31 - 17

District 3
St. Charles West over Wright City 30 - 28

District 4
Blair Oaks over Knob Nasty 56 - 17

District 5
Mt. Vernon over Strafford 35 - 26

District 6
Seneca over Forsyth 56 - 6

District 7
Odessa over St. Michael 38 - 21

District 8
Maryville over Richmond 42 - 17

It appears that Blair Oaks and Seneca are projected by the computer to be as dominant as we have been thinking.

Class 2 District Championship Projections as of week 7

All projections are using Calpreps to project the score of a championship game between the current top 2 seeds in each district. Have fun debating boys!!

District 1
Valle Catholic over Caruthersville 38 - 20

District 2
Bowling Green over Hermann 42 - 14

District 3
Lafayette County over Father Tolton 44 - 27

District 4
Fair Grove over Ava 34 - 27

District 5
Warsaw over Stockton 31 - 21

District 6
Pembroke Hill over KIPP Legacy 31 - 12

District 7
South Shelby over Monroe City 38 - 26

District 8
Mid-Buchanan over Brookfield 38 - 14

A little surprising to see only one of the championship games projected to be pretty close.

Class 4 District Championship Projections as of week 7

All projections are using Calpreps to project the score of a championship game between the current top 2 seeds in each district. Have fun debating boys!!

District 1
Festus over Perryville 38 - 3

District 2
Gateway Tech over Sullivan 21 - 8

District 3
Lutheran North over Jennings 62 - 0

District 4
Parkway North over Orchard Farm 22 - 20

District 5
Warrenton over Kirksville 21 - 14

District 6
Carl Junction over West Plains 26 - 22

District 7
Nevada over Warrensburg 27 - 20

District 8
Kearney over Smithville 35 - 14

Winning a championship game by 60 seems like fun...

Mountain Home(AR)

The Bombers haven’t finished over .500 since 2006.
Currently they are 4-1 with 5 weeks to go in the regular season.
They’ve got a tough road ahead, but it would be pretty cool to see Steve Ary pull another program out of the cellar.

The Bombers were 7-66 overall in the 7 years before Ary took the reins with 3 winless campaigns in that time frame.

So far Ary has had two .500 seasons with bombers as his best finishes in his 5 years at the helm, including 2 playoff wins.

Will year 6 be their year?


Fun fact, I found an online source that has Kickapoo playing Mountain Home in 2001, with the Chiefs being victorious by a score of 20-17

Mountain Home would finish that season 5-5 and the Chiefs would finish that year 9-3 that year under the direction of ole Thompson, losing in the state playoffs to Jeff City by 5, the other 2 losses for the Chiefs that year were a 10 point loss to Hillcrest and an 11-point loss to Ozark.
The Poo played games against teams from 3 different states that year.

Hillcrest would finish 9-2 losing to Poplar Bluff in the regular season, beating WP by 4 in districts and losing to Poo in playoffs by 22 after beating them in the regular season.

  • Poll
Preseason Projected Record for each top 10 team.

Which team is the biggest surprise overall? (on the positive side, so not Lamar)(Based on record)

  • Pierce City

    Votes: 1 3.6%
  • Warsaw

    Votes: 4 14.3%
  • Mt. Vernon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kirksville

    Votes: 11 39.3%
  • Carthage

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lee's Summit

    Votes: 9 32.1%
  • Other...

    Votes: 3 10.7%

Class 1

1) St. Vincent (6-2)
2) Marionville (8-0)
3) Adrian (7-1)
4) Tipton (5-3)
5) Ash Grove (3-5)
6) Van-Far (4-4)
7) Pierce City (1-7) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
8) Penney (4-3)
9) Windsor (4-4)
10) Midway (3-5)

Class 2

1) Valle Catholic (9-1)
2) Warsaw (5-3) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
3) Bowling Green (7-1)
4) Lafayette County (7-1)
5) Fair Grove (7-1)
6) South Shelby (8-1)
7) Lamar (7-1)
8) Mid-Buchanan (7-1)
9) Caruthersville (5-3)
10) Ava (8-0)

Class 3

1) Seneca (7-1)
2) Blair Oaks (7-1)
3) Mt. Vernon (4-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
4) Maryville (4-3)
5) Borgia (7-1)
6) Strafford (7-1)
7) Dexter (6-3)
8) Lift for Life (4-6)
9) Southern Boone (6-2)
10) Boonville (4-4)

Class 4

1) Kearney
2) Lutheran North
3) Smithville (6-2)
4) Festus
5) Kirksville (4-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
6) Warrenton (7-1)
7) Hillsboro (7-1)
8) Nevada (6-2)
9) Osage (4-4)
10) Warrensburg (4-4)

Class 5

1) Cardinal Ritter (6-1)
2) Platte County (6-1)
3) St. Pius X (6-2)
4) Carthage (4-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
5) Eureka
6) Helias (7-1)
7) Republic (8-2)
8) Branson (7-1)
9) Lafayette (Wildwood)
10) Grain Valley

Class 6

1) LSN (6-1)
2) CBC
3) Nixa (7-1)
4) Lee's Summit (3-4) Biggest surprise team in the top 10
5) Blue Springs South
6) Liberty North
7) Blue Springs
8) Rockhurst (6-1)
9) De Smet (5-2)
10) Liberty

Some of the bigger schools didn't have info but I don't think it changed the overall outcome of the discussion I am trying to start. Have Fun!

OMG Conference week 7

Logan-Rogersville (2-4) vs. Marshfield (3-3) - Should be a pretty close game I would think

West Plains (3-3) at Poplar Bluff (2-4) - After this week I have little to no confidence in West Plains

Carl Junction (4-2) vs. Branson (6-0) - Branson by a bunch

Hillcrest (1-5) vs. Bolivar (3-3) - Hillcrest has only beaten Springfield Central soooo.....

CMAC Week 7

Rock Bridge (5-1) at Battle (0-6) - Long night for Battle (well technically a shorter than normal night because of the clock....)

Camdenton (3-3) vs. Hickman (3-3) - Not all 3-3 teams are created equal and Camdenton will show that Friday. Hickman has been much better than expected after an absolute beat down by Helias

Capital City (4-2) at Smith-Cotton (1-5) - Was not impressed by CC on Friday but that could have been more about Helias than CC

Helias (5-1) at Jefferson City (2-4) - Helias by as many as they want

Tri-County Week 7

Blair Oaks (5-1) at Eldon (3-3) - Like most games this year, BO will score as many times as time allows for

Osage (5-1) vs. Boonville (5-1) - Something tells me Osage is much better but we shall see

California (1-5) at Adrian (5-1) - Cali is not good...

Southern Boone (4-2) at Hallsville (2-4) - It depends on if SB plays like they did in the 4th qtr last week or like they did for the first 3

Fulton (0-6) vs. Marshall (0-6) - Game of the Week??

Week 7 Rankings: No click required.

CLASS 6

Rank, team, Rec., Pts., LW
1. CBC (5), 5-1, 85, 2
2. Nixa (3), 6-0, 80, 3
3. Lee’s Summit North (1), 6-0, 77, 4
4. DeSmet, 5-1, 59, 5
5. Rockhurst, 5-1, 51, 1
6. Lee’s Summit, 5-1, 41, 8
7. Blue Springs South, 4-2, 40, 6
8. Seckman, 6-0, 28, 9
9. Liberty North, 4-2, 14, 10
10. Liberty, 4-2, 13, 7
Also receiving votes: Columbia Rock Bridge (5-1), 6; Park Hill (4-2), 1

CLASS 5

Rank, team, Rec., Pts.
1. Cardinal Ritter (9), 5-0, 90, 1
2. Platte County, 6-0, 81, 2
3. St. Pius X, 5-1, 67, 3
T4. Carthage, 5-1, 58, 4
T4. Jefferson City Helias, 5-1, 58, 5
6. Eureka, 6-0, 46, T6
7. Branson, 6-0, 35, 8
8. Cape Central, 5-1, 21, T6
9. Republic, 5-1, 17, NR
10. Grain Valley, 4-2, 9 NR
Dropped out: No. 9 Capital City and No. 10 Hazelwood East
Also receiving votes: Hazelwood East (5-1), 5; Capital City (4-2), 4; Lafayette (6-0), 4

CLASS 4

Rank, team, Rec., Pts.
1. Lutheran North (7), 5-1, 88, 1
2. Kearney (2), 6-0, 82, 2
3. Kirksville, 6-0, 67, 5
4. Smithville, 4-2, 57, 3
5. Warrenton, 6-0, 46, 6
6. Hannibal, 3-3, 38, 4
7. Nevada, 5-1, 37, 7
8. Warrensburg, 5-1, 32, 8
9. Savannah, 4-2, 24, 10
10. Festus, 6-0, 13, NR
Dropped out: No. 9 Carl Junction
Also receiving votes: Pleasant Hill (4-2), 6; School of the Osage (5-1), 3; Carl Junction (4-2), 1; Parkway North (4-2), 1

CLASS 3

Rank, team, Rec., Pts.
1. Blair Oaks (7), 5-1, 88, 1
2. Seneca (2), 6-0, 82, 2
3. Dexter, 6-0, 65, 3
4. Maryville, 4-2, 60, 4
5. St. Francis Borgia, 6-0, 56, 6
6. Mt. Vernon, 5-1, 44, 5
7. Park Hills Central, 5-1, 31, 7
8. Strafford, 6-0, 27, 8
9. Southern Boone, 4-2, 16, 9
10. Boonville, 5-1, 13, 10
Also receiving votes: Lift for Life (3-3), 7; Knob Noster (5-1), 6

CLASS 2

Rank, team, Rec., Pts.
1. Fair Grove (6), 6-0, 87, 1

2. Bowling Green (3), 6-0, 83, 2
3. Valle Catholic, 5-1, 68, 3
4. Warsaw, 6-0, 66, 4
T5. Lafayette County, 5-1, 43, 5
T5. South Shelby, 6-0, 43, 6
7. Mid Buchanan, 6-0, 26, 8
8. South Harrison, 6-0, 23, 10
9. Caruthersville. 5-1, 13, NR
10. Ava, 5-1, 12, NR
Dropped out:
No. 7 Lamar, No. 9 Mountain View-Liberty
Also receiving votes: Mountain View-Liberty (4-2), 10; Pembroke Hill (6-0), 9; Lamar (3-3), 7; Hermann (5-1), 2; Portageville (4-2), 2; Brookfield (6-0), 1

CLASS 1

Rank, team, Rec., Pts.
1. Marionville (5), 6-0, 86, 1

2. St. Vincent (4), 6-0, 85, 2
3. Adrian, 5-1, 72, 3
4. Tipton, 5-1, 61, 4
5. Windsor, 5-1, 51, 6
6. Van Far, 5-1, 42, 5
7. Ash Grove, 5-1, 34, T7
8. Milan, 4-2, 28, T7
9. Salisbury, 5-1, 25, 10
10. Westran, 4-2, 6, NR
Dropped out: No. 9 Marceline
Also receiving votes: Marceline (3-3), 2; Penney (3-3), 2;
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